Do patents on handgun designs expire?

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I think anyone can make a 1911 or BHP right?

The reason I am asking is that I am so distraught over the fact that H&K stopped making the P7M8.

I am wondering if the patents will eventually expire and someday someone will make clones of it.
 
yes they do...when exactly, I have no idea.

the beretta 92 patent expired, which is why Taurus makes their own..

I can't see any company making the p7 tho..
 
I don't think Taurus is capable of producing a P7M8 clone, but if they did I wouldn't buy it.

There has to be money in it - people are snatching these things up at $1500 a pop - second hand !!! (supposedly NIB).

I wish I could go back in time I would have bought more - I would have purchased the entire line from .22 to .40 S&W
 
Do patents on handgun designs expire?

yes.

glock's patent expired a couple years ago. the Ruger SR9 internal frame design is very similar under the hood.


s&w was sued by glock years ago because they copied their design for the sigma while glock still had the patent on it.
 
Yes gun patents have a limited term. Current patents have a term of 20 years. Prior to 1995 it was 17 years. Patents in force in 1995 were extended to 20. Check Wiki 'patent term' for more detail.
 
No. The Taurus PT-92 is a licensed version of the Beretta and is even built on Beretta factory tooling.

Yes, but if the Beretta patents for the 92 have expired then Taurus can continue making them without paying Beretta any more for them.
 
Yes, but if the Beretta patents for the 92 have expired then Taurus can continue making them without paying Beretta any more for them.

Not totally true, it would depend on what the contract between Beretta and Taurus calls for. And why kill the goose that lays the golden ege? There might be more designs that Taurus might want to borrow, so why **** off Beretta??

Jim
 
No. The Taurus PT-92 is a licensed version of the Beretta and is even built on Beretta factory tooling.

Yes, but if the Beretta patents for the 92 have expired then Taurus can continue making them without paying Beretta any more for them.
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Taurus factory in Brazil was constructed in Brazil by Beretta to supply a large military order of the Beretta 92. When the contract was over - everything got sold to what is now Taurus. Taurus continued to manufacture ITS version of the Beretta with some modifcations because the patents on the orginal Beretta design already expired....

The Taurus PT92 was never a licensed version of the Beretta. You could make the claim that the version of the Berettas made in Brazil before the factory was sold to what is now Taurus could be considered "licensed" but they were also marked "Beretta".
 
I am wondering if the patents will eventually expire and someday someone will make clones of it.

Yes. There are lots of examples of clone guns out there. Kel-tec's .380 and Ruger's .380 (although I don't think that Kel-tec had a patent on their .380) and of course all the various 1911s.
 
Yes all patends do expire, someday we will even get the chance to bye generic Viagra. But seriously if you tak apart a Walther PPS you will find the inside looks a lot like a Glock.
 
When Do Gun Patents Expire?

In case anyone refers back to this thread, I'll offer my professional answer.

The info here is good, but not quite precise. Of course, pistol patents are no different than other patents (except that they’re usually much more interesting).

Recent patents filed after June 1995 expire 20 years after their filing date.

The filing date is based on the earliest patent application that the patent is based on (this may be a provisional, foreign filing, or parent in a continuation case.) So if you aren’t sure, it means that a patent may be expired when you thought it wasn’t.

Old patents (filed pre-1995) expired 17 years after their issue (grant) date.

Patent applications pending at the 1995 transition file at the later of the two.

Patents also expire for failure to pay maintenance fees.

For a good article on How to Search Gun Patents (and any other type or patent) you can click to read a recent article from my website. This will lead you to find any patent, to gather up the info you need to know when it will expire.

Ben Langlotz
 
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