What do you think. After shooting 30 rounds at the range, ran a few patches down the bore and a wet patch of patch-out bore cleaner for the ride home. At home removed the bolt,installed the jag on my dewey one piece coated rod with a dry patch,you guessed it, It jammed in the barrel. had to cut the handle off the rod and hammer the rod out. Once the jag cleared the muzzle I removed the jag, the jag had no scratches , seems the patch ripped through the jag due to all the fouling and acted like a glue and jammed the rod. Once I removed the rod I could see rough marks on the coating of the rod where it was bound. I'm hoping I didn't harm the rifling.My thinking is,the coating is softer than the steel rifling. My other problem, I can't stop kicking myself in the ass.
Did I screw up my barrel
- Thread starter cw308
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Chances are very good that you didn't do any damage to the barrel with a coated, 1-piece Dewey rod... the nylon(?) coating is quite thick and durable.
The next time this happens
... unscrew the rod from the jag and use an appropriately sized, clean wooden dowel to drive the jag out. This one suggestion is more for the folks out there who use less "barrel friendly" rods.Cheers,
C
FoghornLeghorn
New member
I seriously doubt you hurt your barrel. I've actually had to pound out a jacketed bullet out of a pre 27 Smith and Wesson.
BTW, the wooden dowel rod never worked for me. It just splintered.
To the OP. Get a bore light and check. If it looks ok, it's probably ok. If it shoots ok, it's ok.
BTW, the wooden dowel rod never worked for me. It just splintered.
To the OP. Get a bore light and check. If it looks ok, it's probably ok. If it shoots ok, it's ok.
Sweet Shooter
New member
Not on the smaller calibers. OP didn't say what caliber. A wooden dowel (hardwood or not—no difference) on the back of a .22?-and-smaller brass jag is the kiss of death.
The best thing to do is exactly what he did... he had a solid connection with the jag with a layer of protective coating to protect the barrel. Only improvement would be to run some thin machine oil in there to help.
-SS-
There will be no next time. I will always put a wet patch down first. Cal. 308 REM.700 LTR was able to remove the jag by tapping the handle with a hammer. New Dewey 30c-40 rod should come UPS thursday. I'm 65, been shooting since I was 12. Drafted 1966, went to VN as 11B inf. been benchrest shooting all this time and never had a rod jam in a barrel. Still kicking myself though. Also ran some krole oil down the barrel from the muzzle, and it still was heart pounding
Kreyzhorse
New member
I doubt there is any damage at all. Rest easy and don't sweat it.
FrankenMauser
New member
Absolutely not!
You're very likely to just splinter the wood, and cause another obstruction.
Then, you have TWO separate obstructions in the bore, and attempting to drive either one out will just make them both get tighter.
If you absolutely MUST use another tool to drive out the obstruction, stick with metal. I prefer O-1 drill rod sized just a few thousandths under bore size, but other members tend to stick with brass or coated steel.
Wood will work every time ...when it doesn't matter. That ONE time that you really need the wooden dowels to hold together, they'll splinter, jam in the bore, and totally ruin your day/week/month.
If you run a dry patch and get it stuck, first order of business is to spray/pour something(oil,cleaning solvent etc.) down the bbl to soak the stuck patch letting the patch rally absorb the lubricant.... along with wetting the bbl on the side of the patch in which you plan on running the patch through.
Have also used Dawn dish washing liquid on stuck Black Powder jags.
Good Luck on your range trip.
Have also used Dawn dish washing liquid on stuck Black Powder jags.
Good Luck on your range trip.
Range report
The barrel was fine. Went back to target shooting with a clear mind.I reload,and I'm trying just sizing about 1/8 of the neck and keeping the rest of the case fire formed. I'm loading 308 Win. Winchester Brass,bench rest fed. primers,IMR 4064 42.0 Gr. 168 Gr.sierra matchking. At 200 yards 1/2 - 3/4 groups with a Stock Remington LTR 20" brl. what a fun weapon. Has anyone out there tried neck sizing like this. Chris
The barrel was fine. Went back to target shooting with a clear mind.I reload,and I'm trying just sizing about 1/8 of the neck and keeping the rest of the case fire formed. I'm loading 308 Win. Winchester Brass,bench rest fed. primers,IMR 4064 42.0 Gr. 168 Gr.sierra matchking. At 200 yards 1/2 - 3/4 groups with a Stock Remington LTR 20" brl. what a fun weapon. Has anyone out there tried neck sizing like this. Chris
warbirdlover
New member
The barrel hardness will be in the HRC 32-36 range. If the jag was made out of a soft metal or plastic it couldn't damage the rifling. If it was hardened (which I highly doubt) you could scratch the bore. I'm betting all is okay.
Ideal Tool
Moderator
Hello, cw308..Glad to hear there was no damage. Yes I neck size only to where bullet base is located. Most of my rifles are on a lead diet now days, both the single shots & bolt guns.
Last range trip,the shooter next to me had a Sako 308, he didn't reload, so he gave me his Winchester brass. Checking his fired brass width size was .004 wider than my fired brass. My question is, is the tighter chamber better for accurace an also not so stressful on the brass. I shoot a Rem. 700 LTR , the barrel has alot of free bore,so reloading my OAL to the lands does not work for my weapon. Keeping my powder at mid range 42.0 Gr IMR 4064 & OAL at 2.800 works for me.