Detective Special: 3rd or 4th issue?

Danus ex

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Hello,

I'm after a Colt Detective Special, and would like one of the newer ones (3rd or 4th issue). I have been unable to find information outlining any differences between the two issues, so if anybody knows them, please enlighten me and any lurkers reading the thread. All I know is that of the four issues, the 3rd and 4th issue Detective Specials appear to be almost identical.

Thanks.
 
Generally, people have settled, (right or wrong) on the definitions of what ARE the 1st, 2nd, 3rd, and 4th "generation" Detective Specials.

Bottom line on the 3rd and 4th is, there really isn't a 4th generation since the guns are EXACTLY the same in every detail.

The other generation DS's all have physical changes that differentiate them.
For instance, the 2nd gen had the shortened "stubby" grip frame.
The 3rd gen had the heavy, shrouded barrel.

The "4th" generation is nothing but the 3rd gen, reintroduced in the mid 1990's after Colt had "permanently" discontinued the "D" frame in the 80's.

In the 80's, Colt was going through wild changes to their product line, discontinuing guns, reintroducing them, then discontinuing them again.
In the late 80's Colt supposedly discontinued the "D" framed guns "for the last time".
Then in the early 90's, made up a run of Detective Specials assembled from left-over parts.

That short run was snapped up by gun buyers, dealers asked for more, and Colt responded by reintroducing DS's made from all new parts.
Colt made these new "4th" generation guns for a few years, then AGAIN discontinued it, and brought out the new stainless steel Colt "SF" series of small revolvers.

For some reason, people decided that these mid-90's DS's somehow qualified as a separate generation, and thus the "4th" generation designation.

The only practical difference between a 3rd and 4th generation DS is, the 4th was usually fitted with Pachmayr-type rubber grips, and came in the new Colt blue plastic box.

Mechanically and cosmetically there is no way to distinguish between a 3rd and 4th DS since they are the same gun in every detail.
The only practical way to ID a 4th gen DS is to call Colt for a production date.
 
Danus ex

I'm after a Colt Detective Special, and would like one of the newer ones (3rd or 4th issue). I have been unable to find information outlining any differences
So am I! If you find one, or two would you let me know!!! ;)

Dfariswheel, I enjoyed the information you provided...Thanks... :)
 
Bullrock

So am I! If you find one, or two would you let me know!!!

Oh I found one alright, and bought it! :D

A new in box third issue Colt DS from the late 70s. The gentleman selling the piece was a pleasure to deal with, and this was one of two NIB Detective Specials from his personal collection of 15 (!). I asked if he was selling the other, but he decided to keep it. Sorry. I did spot several Detective Specials on gunsamerica.com and gunbroker.net, many of which appeared to be in great shape.

Sounds like I scored on my (college) graduation gift to myself.

Dfariswheel
thanks for the information. That's what swayed me--I suppose my real question should have been "should I be looking for a fourth issue DS instead of a third issue DS?" It doesn't seem to matter.
 
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