Desert Eagle... worth it?

gEe26

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Is the desert eagle, baby desert eagle, mark VII actually worth the price? I know that the Israelis use the baby desert eagle so it must be combat ready... but I have heard stories of the desert eagle only being a trophy case piece ... that after few rounds are put through them they lose accuracy?

How valid is this claim? I really think that one will make an excellent home defense weapon... and the baby desert may be even a great CCW!

Let me know what you think!
 
Let me see if I've got this straight: You've got nice reliable guns (okay, ugly reliable guns :p) like Glocks, and you want to use a flaky gun like the Desert Eagle for home defense? No, incidentally, the Desert Eagle is not worth the price, or even a respectable fraction of it. The Baby Eagles aren't too bad, but of the three CZ-pattern brands I've owned, they're my least-favorite.

Steve
 
I've got a .50AE Desert Eagle. The one thing to keep in mind is that this is not generally considered a defense weapon. First of all, it's huge and heavy. Second of all, the recoil and muzzle blast are ridiculous. Thirdly, it's very expensive to practice with (almost a buck a shot; buckshot?). Fourth, it will overpenetrate the person you shoot with it, the wall behind them, and the car outside.

That being said, it is so much fun to shoot! I love mine. The muzzle blast and recoil leaves a smile on your face that will last the rest of the day. It's like nothing I've ever shot before. It makes my .44 Magnum seem tame.

Is it worth it? Not for everyone. It's not on the need list. It's on the want list. If finances dictate you can only own one or two guns, I would not buy one. However, if you've got an extra grand lying around, it's great fun. And remember, you can sell the thing for 700-800 bucks slightly used, so worst case scenario is you don't like it and take a 200-300 dollar hit.
 
It's very much an intimidation gun.... only crazy people would wanna stare down that thing, and even most crazy people wouldnt be too crazy about it.
 
I would get one if it wasn't such a handful. A new Desert Eagle is cheap compared to what you can invest in a real nice 1911.
 
There is a significant difference between the Desert Eagle and the "Baby Eagle". Comparing the two is kind of like comparing a Corvette and a GMC truck...sure they are both made by GM and have 4 wheels and an engine, but thats where the commonality ends.

The Baby Eagle is actualy the IMI Jerico...an excellent handgun designed around the CZ-75 and Browning Hi-Power model. From all accounts the Baby Eagle (which also goes by the name Jerico and Uzi-Jerico) is an excellent handgun that would be good for home defense and CCW.

The Desert Eagle is a big flashy semi auto that only seems to exist because someone bet some gun smith he couldn't make semi auto that fired big bore revolver rounds and is really only good for some hunting, showing off at the range, badguys in Hollyweird movies, and in video games. :)
 
Well that sounds like what I have been hearing... yes I do have a great home defense weapon right now ... G26... but I wanted to see if the hype behind the Desert eagle truth or fiction...

I thought the Baby desert eagle would get the highest reviews cause that is that the Israeli army carries... and I know that they wouldnt carry a POS... their lives depend on it daily. :confused:

But the Desert Eagle .50 , .45, .40 calibers.... dont seem to be worth all the fuss and money. According to what I hear... they lose accuracy after you fire them a couple times... that really bites!!! :mad:

I would hate to buy a gun that loses accuracy after a couple shots... i hope that the baby desert doesnt do that...

So i guess that I will put the Baby Desert on my christmas list... along with a another Glock... once you get one ... you just cant stop!

Shoot straight!
 
The MK I and MK VII models are very overpriced due to their limited conversions, but the MK XIX is only a bit overpriced if you have more money than sense.;) The MK XIX uses the .50AE frame for all calibers, so with just one frame you can have all the cake you want.:D
 
The only way I can see that you'd "lose accuracy after a couple shots" is if you were flinching from the horrendous muzzle blast of the .50AE. :D Sounds like rumor to me.

From what I hear, they are solid guns. A tad picky on the kind of ammo they're fed, but other than that, they are supposed to shoot well. They're also supposed to be accurate.

If ArmySon stopped by this thread, I'm sure he could throw in his two cents.
 
gEe26,

I'm not sure if you are clear on the differences between the Baby Desert Eagle and the true Desert Eagle.

The term 'Desert Eagle' is now a brand name that Magnum Research now uses in some of its line of firearms. It was originally use exclusively for the gas operated magnum shooters that you see in the movies all of the time. They came/come in .357mag, .41mag, .44mag, .50AE, .440Corbon. As stated, they are gas operated and are quite large and heavy. Not very good to use for CCW work.

Before the introduction of the Desert Eagle gun, IMI had and still does manufacture a CZ clone, IIRC, orignially called the Jericho. It was produced in 9mm and .41AE. It had been renamed the Baby Eagle and now the Baby Desert Eagle, now also available in .40SW and .45ACP (I think the .41AE was dropped.). These are completely different guns than the original Desert Eagle pistol.

It appears from your posts that you are thinking about the CZ clone and not the magnum guns. If this is the case, almost all of the CZ clones being sold are actually very good guns for the money. I have never heard of the 'lose accuracy after you fire then a couple' complaint before on any clone. This also applies to the mag guns, never heard of that problem also. Where or who did you hear that from?
 
Ledbetter's opinion

I have shot the Desert Eagle in .44 Mag and I own a CZ-75BD.

There are lots of better, lighter, more accurate ways to deliver a .44 Mag round to the target. The DE is just too big and heavy unless you think you'll need more than 6 rounds of .44 Mag to solve a problem. A 1911 in .45 ACP works better for me for being ready to deliver lots of pistol rounds.

As for buying a CZ clone, why not get the real deal?

Regards.
 
The only quasi-practical Desert Eagle I've ever handled was a Mark VII .44 Magnum with a lightweight alloy frame... it was only humungous and sort of too heavy instead of Damn Insane Humungous and Whacko Heavy. :D

As for the Baby Eagle... just get a CZ-75B instead of an uglier knock-off.
 
As for the Baby Eagle... just get a CZ-75B instead of an uglier knock-off.

CastleBravo if you havent noticed... I like ugly guns!! :D

The jericho sort of has that Desert Eagle look to it... without all the extra frills ... meaning that it isnt a humungous hand cannon...

I actually held one today and it points really well has nice weight and balance to it also. The guy who owns it was very impressed with how it held tight groupings at 25 yards!

So I think i will get a "Jericho" (for all those offended by me calling it a Baby desert eagle...) 9mm, .40 or .45 really soon to add to my other ugly guns...

What can I say... i just like the ugly guns that get the work done...

Straight shooting!!
 
I've shot the Baby Eagle. The only thing I didn't care for was the fact that the cocking serrations are very short. That made it difficult to rack the slide.
 
My DE experience

has been with a .44 mag Mark VII, six inch barrel, alloy frame, over the last two years, shooting almost every week. Its been a real love-hate relationship for me.

Its too big, but then again most guns are because I have small hands. I put a Hogue rubber grip on it, without which I would not be able to keep a firm grip. Like anything else, you get used to it.

The recoil is strong, but not as strong as a large .44 mag revolver. The action of the gas operating slide absorbs much of the kick. Again, once you get used to the recoil, it is not really an issue.

It has remained the most accurate handgun I own, much more accurate than I am capable of shooting. I can actually hit targets at 100 yards, which for me, considering my eyesight, is outstanding. Note that I did not say how big those targets are. I have noticed no degradation in accuracy over two years, and probably over 2500 rounds fired.

You've got to keep the thing clean! If you seriously dislike cleaning guns, do not buy a DE! I cannot get over 50 rounds through it without a thorough cleaning. Clean in accordance with the website indicated above. If you do not, the slide may freeze up and you'll have a hellava time trying to get it unstuck.

Initial cost is high. But as indicated by others above, I believe I could get most of my money back out of it if I wanted. So I do not see cost as a real issue. Cost of ammo: I reload, anybody who shoots several times a month needs to reload otherwise you are waisting $. Not an issue if you are very well to-do. I've found standard 240 grain semi jacketed soft points to shoot the best. I like AA#9, BlueDot, and VV105, loaded slightly under max.

The trigger is wierd, a little heavy, and has a click to it, once again, you get used to it.

The worst problem I have had with the gun is its failure to extract the spent case. I thought I had the problem solved by installing new springs. That reduced the problem greatly, but not completely. It still jams up on me about once every 25 rounds. The DE must be very firmly held, the slightest limp wristing will likely cause it to jam. The jamming problem is the one thing I have considerable difficulty in dealing with and has almost caused me to trade the gun. But what would I trade it for? I love the feel of the power of shooting a .44 mag semi-auto.

I have no experience with the .50 AE.

I hope some of the above discussion helps. The problem here is my experience of course is limited to a sample group of one gun. You may get one that never jams, or maybe the jamming problem has been corrected with the newer Mark XIX. Who knows? I'd sure like to hear if it has.

One more thing, if you like being politically incorrect, as I do, get a black Desert Eagle tee shirt. It has a small Magnum Research logo on the front and a large image of the gun on the back. Be cool, wear it to the church picnic. My sons love it, its one shirt of mine I won't let them wear. Best of luck.
 
The only experience I have is via a fellow shooter who owns one. Day 2 with us at the range and the thing did some sort of impromtu self dissassembly because a couple fo parts broke. Sorry, all I knew was that I was helping to find the firing pin and firing pin spring on the ground. He sent it to the factory for repair. It came back, got about 50 rounds through again when it stopped cycling. Something else had broken.

My sample size is 1, but the sample was very bad.
 
Did have a chance to fire the .44 Mag version made by IMI. Very nice weapon but big. Wouldn't use for HD... if you don't already have a HD pistol, I would get something far more practical first.

As mentioned, if I had my HD/CCW, etc. bases covered already and had the extra cash, I'd get one in a heartbeat (they are FUN FUN!)... the problem is for that price you can get a pretty darn good rifle or shotgun setup. Feeding it would also be a problem as they are picky will all but a few loads.

I would not understand the mechanism behind losing accuracy after a few shots. Unlike the majority of semi's today, the barrel is fixed to the frame. It shouldn't move at all, thus increasing accuracy.

Just a thought...
 
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