Demo's & Media to try to drive wedge between Republicans & NRA and gun owners & NRA

M

Mr. Pub

New member
After reading clinton's interview in Rolling Stone http://www.usnewswire.com/topnews/Current_Releases/1207-118.html
and from reading and watching in general, I think the democrats and their media friends are getting ready to launch an offensive to try to separate Republican elected officials from the NRA and gun owners from the NRA.

In congress, even though the democrats picked up a number of seats, they lost just as many in gun friendly districts. For the Presidency, gore lost states like West Virginia, Tennessee and Arkansas, in large part due to the gun issue.

The NRA/GOA with our support is hurting them in a big way and they know it. As a result, I think that you will see an attempt to try to demonize the gun lobby, not just with ordinary people, but with Republican politicians and with gun owners themselves. Sort of like the way they trashed women who got in their way.

Quite frankly, I don't think it will work because I don't think they understand how we think and feel. They don't look at things from our point of view. However, look for them to try to separate hunters and target shooters from other gun owners (though, isn't everyone at least a target shooter?) and to try to convince Republican politicians that supporting gun rights is a losing issue - especially in states where Republicans have been in retreat, like California.

I think that we will need to concentrate on solidarity and minimize our usual infighting more than ever to counter this coming offensive.

What do you think?
 
We've done a pretty good job of factional infighting and fratracide without Slick Willie's help. Even Charlton Heston will not pose with anything more threatening that an over and under 12 ga.

Until every gun owner wakes up and realizes that we are all in this leaking boat together, we will continue to sink by our own hands. Consider own many gun owners must have voted for Gore in PA and MI. That should have been a wake-up call to every pro 2A org in the US if anything ever could be.

Here at TFL and over at TAC we seem to pull together fairly well, but that is less than a few thousand gunowners out of an estimated 80 million. Look at the news about Angel Shamaya and the BATF raid. Even rabidly active pro 2A grounps seem to spend a lot of time and energy trying to steal the thunder from "rival" groups with our community.

Perhaps each of us should dedicate some portion of each day for trying to get uncommitted gunowners and other fence sitters onboard with the NRA or GOA. And do not forget to lobby both of those groups to stop sniping at each other. We must stand united.
 
I think that you will see an attempt to try to demonize the gun lobby...


Man, WHERE YOU BEEN the past eight years???

WILL see? Too late....
 
never realized that....

It's true, I never noticed Mr Heston's props for what they aren't as much as what they are. They usually are very fine or historic examples of (sporting, whatever that means) firearms, but they aren't:
1)"assault weapons"
2)handguns of any flavor
3)anything that would be considered designed for self-defense.

Interesting, that.
 
i have been tempted to photoshop an AR15 in Chuck's hand to replace that flintlock...

dZ
 
Dennis:

I don't mean demonize the NRA as they always have been (this was mainly aimed at non-gun owners). What I mean is that they will try to drive a wedge between gun owners and the NRA. To an extent they have already been doing this. I think that they will step up their efforts to include getting prominent gun owners or organizations normally considered pro-gun to turn against the NRA. This was, after all, one of the reasons for the smith & wesson agreement.

In the old days the wedge was between the NRA and more conservative elements i.e. the GOA. Now they will try to peel off the more liberal (for lack of a better word), half of gun rights people in order to weaken our movement.
 
I have seem Heston do TV appearances with handguns and talk about them.

As far as praising the NRA and GOA, it is an empirical question on whether the latter is more than a fringe group for the choir. The GOA makes its own problems and basically exists to taunt the NRA.
 
On the other hand, it seems that the Dems are seeing the POWER of the NRA and gun owners. Something like %85 of NRA endorsed cadidates won this election! The Dems may get the hint and lay off the gun control, because if they don't they can plainly see that we will vote their asses out!

We have made gains, and we have unified and gotten power....and yet we are still only a small fraction of gun owners. I still dream of the day that all gun owners go out and vote.
 
Something like 39% of the gun owners who did go out and vote voted for Gore. We have a two-fold problem of getting gun owners to get out and vote and getting some gun owners to realize that Gore plans to do in the Second Amendment or at the very least place it neatly in the guillotine so that someone else can pull the lever.
 
Congressional election of 2002 are underway. The next two years will be brutal hand-to-hand political combat regardless of who wins presidency. Hopefully the spinelessrepublicans will grow a backbone and stand up to the inevitable assault from the democrats.

Get used to it, get radicalized, get involved. If Gore enters the WH, anticipate a fast move against the 2nd amendment. It has taken us less than two years to go from senate inaction against a president to lies to a federal grand jury to a presidental candidate who assaults the electoral system by which we elect our leaders. Both will be done without punishment, therefore there must be no penalty for flipping off the law and raping the constitution.
 
This may seem like a confused comment, but I have to agree with all the above. In the immortal words of my friend Miss Mary, the dems and the media can bite me. (Can I say that here?)
 
mcneill,

You can say that here only if you say it like you really mean it.

Hey! All you goresupporters and media hacks:BITE ME!

There. That's how it's done. ;)
 
Did anyone notice in that Rolling Stone interview that Clinton said he'd like to run again if the Constitution had permitted it? And that he had done _internal polls_ that showed he would have beaten Bush? That megalomaniacal, preening, self-absorbed, corrupt, self-indulgent, grandstanding, underhanded, duplicitous product of an unholy act actually did a poll to see how he would have done as candidate! If there is a God in Heaven, I pray that we never have to see William Jefferson Clinton again.

Dick
Want to send a message to Bush? Sign the petition at http://www.petitiononline.com/monk/petition.html and forward the link to every gun owner you know.
 
There is no try to it. They are succeeding. I see numerous people at the various gun boards I visit who, for whatever f****d up reason do not and will not support the NRA,GOA or any of the mainstream firearms support groups. Their answers to why sound good but the bottom line is they will NOT spend their money on something they can't get instant gratification on. Sort of ironic, they will help the enemy rather than work together with others towards common sense goals. (I.E. "Why doesn't the NRA try to get the 1934 Firearms act repealed, why doesn't GOA get the 1994 assault rifle ban repealed, etc. ad naseum). The scum sucking toad one of my daughters married is the world's worst about that crap. If you can't even get the people on your side to help out, what are the odds you can convert anyone from the other side? Sorry to sound so bitter but this particular subject does gripe my a$$. The other reason some folks won't join is then they can "track" me. Heck, like they can't do it now?
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top