Democrats for the 2nd Amendment

K

Keiller TN

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Can you believe this??? My son sent me this link: http://www.d2a.org/


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"Unless the Lord builds the house, they labour in vain that build it:
except the Lord guards the city, the watchman stays awake in vain." (Psalm 127:1)

The Second Amendment rights have not kept pace with the First.

"Freedom is given to the human conditionally, in the assumption of his constant religious responsibility."
(Alexander Solzhenitzyn)
 
It's a hoax...it must be. I just can't believe it. (Well...there *is* rep. John Dingell....I wonder how he fits in....)

Does anyone know if this is a real group?


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"People who say guns are bad are lucky enough never to have been in a situation where someone has kicked down your door and threatened the life of your son and your sixty-five-year-old mother."
-- Memphis, Tennessee resident Gina Cushon, quoted in Laura Ingraham's book "The Hillary Trap"
 
Here in Southwestern VA we have a lot of Deomcrats that vote with Republicans on gun issues. The best thing to do is joint the NRA, they send reports to memebers on legislators' voting history, so you know who to vote for.
 
That site has been around for quite a while and has been very inactive, which is a shame for the Democratic rank and file. The Democrats are not going to reform themselves on this issue, they need to be kicked out of office on the issue.
 
Unfortunately, the RKBA is being painted as a right wing nut issue.

We need more politically moderate folks to support it. It should be independent of party.

Again, unfortunately, the rhetoric of groups like TFL tend to make it seem like you need to be conservative to support the RKBA.

Not true and I know list members who quit because of the right wing PC drone of some posts.
 
I don't know who will win in my district, (2nd, Oklahoma) but they're both against more gun control. The Democrat, Brad Carson, seems like the favorite to me.
 
Here in Houston TX, Sheila Jackson-Lee (D) needs to get kicked out. She's had her fun pushing for more gun control back when they were trying to pass the Dingel amendment in the House, and it's time to pay now.
 
The NRA rates the members of Congress and there are Democrats who do support the NRA's position on the Second Amendment.

I just voted today and learned that Feinswine was running for Senate. Naturally I voted against her. She is one candidate I'd like to put on the "Ship of Fools" which will be on a one way voyage to China (Workers' Paradise).
 
WayneD and all.

The NRA has proved once again they are not a "GUN RIGHTS" group.

The NRA is endorseing Repubicans ONLY. In Mass. where the Repub's aren't running a candidate for Senator, they have no recommendation for someone against Kennedy. They ignore Carla Howell because she isn't a Republican. I've heard they've withdrawn support for Dingell even after he save our butt on last years Juvinial Justice bill.

I would NOT take the NRA's recommendations at face value. If it concerns an incumbent, check it out for yourself. I'm sure you'll find more than one person supported by the NRA who is ANTI gun.

Eric
(btw: I voted on Monday, early ballot, and feel damn good with my picks. Win or lose)
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Unfortunatley, on this issue a lot of people will vote the party line so the party will support them when they need it. The party line is determined by the national party machine, and it is often impossible to separate the baby from the bathwater. Officials who run contrary to the party platform find it hard to get support when they want to introduce a bill, or $ when they want to run for reelection.

With GWB at the top of the ticket, I'm confident his will will hold sway with the majority of his party. If John Dingell were set to win the Presidency, that would be one thing, but we know where Gore will take us (and his party) on this issue.

GWB stated the differences between the national parties lines very simply in the debates:

Dems: big gov't knows how to spend your money and run your life better than you do

GOP: trust people to make the right decisions and handle their own affairs without gov't interference.

Notice, for all his talk about "fuzzy math", Gore did not dispute or deny GWB's succinct description of their philosophical differences.
 
RH,

I guess I'm just being a bit naive.
I want the NRA, or any gun rights group, to be a SINGLE issue group and non partisan.

I've contacted other groups (non gun) that I am a member of to find out if they have a stance on gun control, if so, I quit. That isn't why I join them.

I don't want the NRA to give a damn about which party has control over this or that. I want them to get me a congress that will NOT pass anti gun bills. Give me Dingell any and every day before Lincoln Chafee or John McCain. The NRA is not a political party advocate, they are an ISSUE advocate. They are going to guarentee we loose if they keep up there simple minded ways.

Eric
 
The NRA endorsed two Democratic Congressional candidates here in the greater Houston area, presumably because they voted against the party line on significant gun-related votes.

Shooters in the 9th Congressional District (which includes Galveston and Beaumont) have a pleasant choice to make -- the Democratic incumbent is rated highly by the NRA, and Paul Williams, the Republican challenger, is trying to be even more pro-gun than the incumbent. That's what you call a problem of prosperity!
 
Democratic Govenor Candidate for Indiana got an "A" rating from the NRA.

Republican Senator Dick Lugar got a "C-". Don't vote Lugar! But he's gonna win anyway.

Now if the ACLU would just repent on the second amendment, I'd be too happy.

Regards,
MP
 
RH is unfortunately correct. The NRA of late has been accused of being the "Mational Republican Association, but this belittles a very subtile but important point. Of the two major political parties in Congress, clearly the Republican seems to have a much higher opinion of the 2nd amendment than their distinguished opponents across the aisle. If the NRA were to actively support democratic candidates, and if Allah forbid, they manage to elect a Democratic majority in either house, God help us on comittee assignments. Fineswine heading the judicary committee, Gephardt setting the house agenda as speaker, etc. Is it unfair to pro-gun Democrats? An emphatic YES, but considering the alternative, I'll take my chances with the GOP.

Remember vote for the powerful, not the people!
 
My Representative is Ronnie Shows, a Democrat. He votes like a Republican on RKBA and like a Democrat on things like prescription drugs. I will comtinue to vote for him because he is a known supporter of RKBA.
Face it, most politicans are a mixed bag on issues.

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You have to be there when it's all over. Otherwise you can't say "I told you so."

Better days to be,

Ed
 
Eric, in VA, the NRA is endorsing 2 Democrats in the House Races, Norman Sisisky and Rick Boucher. Boucher was rated an A+ while the Republican received an A rating, so not much difference. It would seem that if the NRA was only backing GOP candidates as you suggest, here was a perfect opportunity to do so. The fact is that the NRA backs whichever candidate supports the 2nd Ammendment through prior votes or through opionions expressed the candidate surveys they send out.

I believe that the NRA sides with the PERSON not the PARTY, as suggested by the info I mentioned.

Snake
 
Many of you are not old enough to remember when both major parties held liberal, moderates and conservatives.

The fall out of the Civil Rights campaigns and Goldwater campaigns is that most of the conservatives went GOP and liberals went Democrat. This was very bad for the RKBA as it identified the cause with conservatism and particularly with the more unpleasant aspects of social conservatism.

I recall Hubert Humphrey supporting the RKBA.

Unless, the RKBA is not seen as a cause of
a party that is antiwomen, minorities, old people, gays, etc. - you lock the RKBA away from many folk who would buy the argument that private firearms ownership is a good thing.

Most arguments for the RKBA seem to focus on conservative reasons and that won't work as long term strategy.
 
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