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TexasRusty
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No it isn't just you son.
Al's entire life is tied up in this election. He will do and say whatever he thinks will take to win this election.
Al's entire life is tied up in this election. He will do and say whatever he thinks will take to win this election.
What TexasRusty said.
Personally.. I'm not a big Bush fan, but it is quite obvious that he is rippin' AlBore a new one at every turn. I think this is amazing. After all that these people have said.. I think I will save the last bullet for myself if AlBore gets elected.
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Personally.. I'm not a big Bush fan, but it is quite obvious that he is rippin' AlBore a new one at every turn. I think this is amazing. After all that these people have said.. I think I will save the last bullet for myself if AlBore gets elected.
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Ed Brunner
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Al is a control freak and you can see that he cant stand not having the last word.
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You have to be there when it's all over. Otherwise you can't say "I told you so."
Better days to be,
Ed
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You have to be there when it's all over. Otherwise you can't say "I told you so."
Better days to be,
Ed
Oh man!!
Bush just SLAMMED Gore!!!!!!!
Gore continued to speak past his time and the commetator made note of it and continue to ask Bush what he thought.. (or something along those lines).
At any rate, Bush said that this "debate is based on rules, but apparently that does not mean anything to you" while looking at Gore.
Oh, S-M-A-C-K!!
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Bush just SLAMMED Gore!!!!!!!
Gore continued to speak past his time and the commetator made note of it and continue to ask Bush what he thought.. (or something along those lines).
At any rate, Bush said that this "debate is based on rules, but apparently that does not mean anything to you" while looking at Gore.Oh, S-M-A-C-K!!
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J
Jeff, CA
Guest
Audience member: My 6th grade class wants me to ask you: Will you keep your promises?
Gore: Yes. I'm a man who believes in keeping promises.
That's what I'm afraid of.
I shut it off not too long after that. Just couldn't stomach either one of them.
Gore: Yes. I'm a man who believes in keeping promises.
That's what I'm afraid of.
I shut it off not too long after that. Just couldn't stomach either one of them.
I hear that Jeff. These guys make my skin crawl. I thought Gore was going to turn to Bush and try to take him out! That man is unstable.
But Bush is spineless. Answer the damn question on affirmative action straight up. Waffling around like that drives me nuts. You don't believe in affirmative action? Then say so, then explain why.
Grrrrr.
- gabe
But Bush is spineless. Answer the damn question on affirmative action straight up. Waffling around like that drives me nuts. You don't believe in affirmative action? Then say so, then explain why.
Grrrrr.
- gabe
"I have raised my hand nine time to be sworn in, and I have never broken that oath ti support the Constitution." (imperfectly quoted from memory.)
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John/az
"When freedom is at stake, your silence is not golden, it's yellow..." RKBA!
See The Legacy of Gun Control film at: www.cphv.com
Do it for the children...
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John/az
"When freedom is at stake, your silence is not golden, it's yellow..." RKBA!
See The Legacy of Gun Control film at: www.cphv.com
Do it for the children...
http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2000/debates/transcripts/u221017.html
LEHRER: Governor Bush, another kind of
gun question. It'll be asked by Robert Lutz
(ph).
Mr. Lutz (ph)?
QUESTION: Governor Bush.
BUSH: Yes, sir.
QUESTION: We'd just like to know, what is
your opposition to the Brady gun --
handgun bill?
BUSH: Could you -- I'm sorry I didn't hear
that.
QUESTION: We'd like to know why you object
to the Brady handgun -- if you do object to
it. Because in a recent TV ad, it showed that
the National Rifle Association says if you are
elected that they will be working out of
your office. I can just see...
BUSH: I don't think the National Rifle
Association ran that ad, but let me just tell
you my position on guns in general, sir, if
you don't mind.
LEHRER: I'm not -- excuse me, I'm not sure
he's finished with his question, Governor.
I'm sorry.
BUSH: Oh, I'm sorry.
QUESTION: Well, actually that kind of
bothers me, you know, when I see that ad
like that. I wonder if you could explain that
ad to me.
BUSH: Well, I don't think I ran the ad; I think
somebody who doesn't want me to
president might have run that ad. It's a --
that wasn't my ad and I think it might have
been one of my opponents' ads.
Here's what I believe, sir. I believe
law-abiding citizens ought to be allowed to
protect themselves and their families. I
believe that we ought to keep guns out of
the hands of people who shouldn't have
them. That's why I'm for instant
background checks at gun shows. I'm for
trigger locks. I think that makes sense.
Matter of fact, we distributed free trigger
locks in the state of Texas so that people
can get them and put them on their guns
to make their guns more safe.
BUSH: I think we ought to raise the age at
which juveniles can have a gun.
But I also believe strongly that we need to
enforce laws on the books, that the best
way to make sure that we keep our society
safe and secure is to hold people
accountable for breaking the law. If we
catch somebody illegally selling a gun,
there needs to be a consequence. We keep
-- somebody, you know, illegally using a
gun, there needs to be a consequence.
Enforcement of law. And the federal
government can help.
There's a great program called Project
Exile in Richmond, Virginia. We focused
federal taxpayers' money and federal
prosecutors and went after people who
were illegally using guns. To me, that's how
you make society the safest it can be.
And so, yes, sometimes I agree with some
of these groups in Washington and
sometimes I don't. I'm a pretty
independent thinker. But one thing I'm for
is a safe society, and I'm for enforcing laws
on the books. And that's what's going to
happen should I earn your confidence.
LEHRER: Vice President Gore?
GORE: Well, it wasn't one of -- it was not one
of my ads either, Governor. But I am
familiar with the statement, and it was
made by one of the top ranking officials of
that organization.
Let me tell you my position. I think that
some common-sense gun safety measures
are certainly needed with the flood of
cheap handguns that have sometimes been
working their way into the hands of the
wrong people.
But all of my proposals are focused on that
problem: gun safety. None of my proposals
would have any effect on hunters or
sportsmen or people who use rifles.
GORE: They're aimed at the real problem.
Let's make our schools safe. Let's make our
neighborhoods safe. Let's have a three-day
waiting period, A cooling off, so we can
have a background check to make sure
that criminals and people who really
shouldn't have guns don't get them.
But I'd like to use my remaining time on
this exchange, Jim, to respond to an
exchange that took place just a moment
ago, because a couple of times the
governor has said that I am for a bigger
government.
Governor, I'm not. And let me tell you what
the record shows.
For the last eight years, I have had the
challenge of running the streamlining
program called Reinventing Government.
And if there are any federal employees in
this group, you know what that means.
The federal government has been reduced
in size by more than 300,000 people, and it's
now the smallest number that we have had
since -- the smallest in size since John
Kennedy's administration. During the last
five years, Texas' government has gone up
in size. The federal government has gone
down; Texas' government has gone up.
Now, my plan for the future, I see a time
when we have smaller, smarter
government, where you don't have to wait
in line because you can get services online
cheaper, better, faster. We can do that.
LEHRER: Governor Bush, another kind of
gun question. It'll be asked by Robert Lutz
(ph).
Mr. Lutz (ph)?
QUESTION: Governor Bush.
BUSH: Yes, sir.
QUESTION: We'd just like to know, what is
your opposition to the Brady gun --
handgun bill?
BUSH: Could you -- I'm sorry I didn't hear
that.
QUESTION: We'd like to know why you object
to the Brady handgun -- if you do object to
it. Because in a recent TV ad, it showed that
the National Rifle Association says if you are
elected that they will be working out of
your office. I can just see...
BUSH: I don't think the National Rifle
Association ran that ad, but let me just tell
you my position on guns in general, sir, if
you don't mind.
LEHRER: I'm not -- excuse me, I'm not sure
he's finished with his question, Governor.
I'm sorry.
BUSH: Oh, I'm sorry.
QUESTION: Well, actually that kind of
bothers me, you know, when I see that ad
like that. I wonder if you could explain that
ad to me.
BUSH: Well, I don't think I ran the ad; I think
somebody who doesn't want me to
president might have run that ad. It's a --
that wasn't my ad and I think it might have
been one of my opponents' ads.
Here's what I believe, sir. I believe
law-abiding citizens ought to be allowed to
protect themselves and their families. I
believe that we ought to keep guns out of
the hands of people who shouldn't have
them. That's why I'm for instant
background checks at gun shows. I'm for
trigger locks. I think that makes sense.
Matter of fact, we distributed free trigger
locks in the state of Texas so that people
can get them and put them on their guns
to make their guns more safe.
BUSH: I think we ought to raise the age at
which juveniles can have a gun.
But I also believe strongly that we need to
enforce laws on the books, that the best
way to make sure that we keep our society
safe and secure is to hold people
accountable for breaking the law. If we
catch somebody illegally selling a gun,
there needs to be a consequence. We keep
-- somebody, you know, illegally using a
gun, there needs to be a consequence.
Enforcement of law. And the federal
government can help.
There's a great program called Project
Exile in Richmond, Virginia. We focused
federal taxpayers' money and federal
prosecutors and went after people who
were illegally using guns. To me, that's how
you make society the safest it can be.
And so, yes, sometimes I agree with some
of these groups in Washington and
sometimes I don't. I'm a pretty
independent thinker. But one thing I'm for
is a safe society, and I'm for enforcing laws
on the books. And that's what's going to
happen should I earn your confidence.
LEHRER: Vice President Gore?
GORE: Well, it wasn't one of -- it was not one
of my ads either, Governor. But I am
familiar with the statement, and it was
made by one of the top ranking officials of
that organization.
Let me tell you my position. I think that
some common-sense gun safety measures
are certainly needed with the flood of
cheap handguns that have sometimes been
working their way into the hands of the
wrong people.
But all of my proposals are focused on that
problem: gun safety. None of my proposals
would have any effect on hunters or
sportsmen or people who use rifles.
GORE: They're aimed at the real problem.
Let's make our schools safe. Let's make our
neighborhoods safe. Let's have a three-day
waiting period, A cooling off, so we can
have a background check to make sure
that criminals and people who really
shouldn't have guns don't get them.
But I'd like to use my remaining time on
this exchange, Jim, to respond to an
exchange that took place just a moment
ago, because a couple of times the
governor has said that I am for a bigger
government.
Governor, I'm not. And let me tell you what
the record shows.
For the last eight years, I have had the
challenge of running the streamlining
program called Reinventing Government.
And if there are any federal employees in
this group, you know what that means.
The federal government has been reduced
in size by more than 300,000 people, and it's
now the smallest number that we have had
since -- the smallest in size since John
Kennedy's administration. During the last
five years, Texas' government has gone up
in size. The federal government has gone
down; Texas' government has gone up.
Now, my plan for the future, I see a time
when we have smaller, smarter
government, where you don't have to wait
in line because you can get services online
cheaper, better, faster. We can do that.
KAM_Indianapolis
New member
Gore = rabid left wing pitbull
I think the surprising thing is how far out in lefty la-la land this guy really is. And he showed it.
I think Bush has it won. Bush didn't answer Gore's question. That's because he was speaking to the people of the United States, not winning a debate.
Peace...
Keith
I think the surprising thing is how far out in lefty la-la land this guy really is. And he showed it.
I think Bush has it won. Bush didn't answer Gore's question. That's because he was speaking to the people of the United States, not winning a debate.
Peace...
Keith
Did anyone else notice Bush laughing when Gore would switch to a-hole attack mode? Bush was laughing becuase his pole numbers were shooting up and Gore's were going down. All GW had to do was push the right buttons and Gore responded on cue like the poorly programed robot he is. -- Kernel
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"....danger Wil Robinson !!!" -- Robbie
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"....danger Wil Robinson !!!" -- Robbie
I didn't especially like listening to either one of them. I'm still bummed out with these two "choices" that we were "given".
But I didn't mind looking at that pair of legs that could be seen in the background every now and then. I vote for her.
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Hoka-hey
But I didn't mind looking at that pair of legs that could be seen in the background every now and then. I vote for her.
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Hoka-hey
From watching this last debate, I'd say that its quite obvious that Al Gore has a personality problem. He appears unstable, very aggressive and extremely arrogant.
This is NOT the man I'd put in charge of "the little red button"...
And notice that when Gore replied to the gun question he said, "None of my proposals would have any effect on hunters or sportsmen or people who use rifles." and totally omitted handguns.
Gore wants to ban handguns, of course. But he's not telling America that.
[This message has been edited by dvc (edited October 18, 2000).]
This is NOT the man I'd put in charge of "the little red button"...
And notice that when Gore replied to the gun question he said, "None of my proposals would have any effect on hunters or sportsmen or people who use rifles." and totally omitted handguns.
Gore wants to ban handguns, of course. But he's not telling America that.
[This message has been edited by dvc (edited October 18, 2000).]
I believe
law-abiding citizens ought to be allowed to
protect themselves and their families. ---
OH really then youve got your work cut out for you.And would that be after or before I spend 200 bucks for the permit to protect
my family???
I believe that we ought to keep guns out of
the hands of people who shouldn't have
them.----Yeah we know but the big problems is that you and Gore both think you have a clue as to whos are the 'wrong' hands and what guns can be held by those hands.
That's why I'm for instant
background checks at gun shows.---Mmm wow
Instant gun registration with the federal government Adolf must by laughing in his grave and admiring how far weve come.
WE have almost complete control over whether persons can transfer private property or not and let a computer decide whether they have the freedom to do so or not.Hmmm
Computers decided who gets guns computers count the votes last, dang I just love a computerized society dont you?
I'm for
trigger locks. I think that makes sense.
Matter of fact, we distributed free trigger
locks in the state of Texas so that people
can get them and put them on their guns
to make their guns more safe.------
Dawm lock our guns up to make us safer.
And all this time I had this strange notion
that working guns made us safer and better able to combat crime.Goreugood sure didnt whine about that one now did he.
So all this time Ive been endangering the neighbors,the kids the wife by having an accessible firearm for the gangbangers that tend to leave 10 minutes before the cops finish their donuts.
But I also believe strongly that we need to
enforce laws on the books, that the best
way to make sure that we keep our society
safe and secure is to hold people
accountable for breaking the law. --
Well Ill be I knew someone was going to bring up the laws that are meant to 'protect us'.Fraid hell have to get in line behind a long list of 'great' leaders that thought the people should be held accountable for exercising what they once thought were freedoms like Adolf HItler, Mussolini, Castro and even Comrade Clinton.
Now I will grant you this these men were more concerned about going after subjects that knew the law rather than those that made a 'killing' off of breaking them but still they were concerned about the law of the land just the same 'All jews will be exterminated'
Guns will be kept out of the 'WRONG' hands.
Boys and girls of TFL guess whos hands will never be considered 'WRONG' hands??
If we
catch somebody illegally selling a gun,
there needs to be a consequence. We keep
-- somebody, you know, illegally using a
gun, there needs to be a consequence.
Enforcement of law. ---Heaven forbid they consider defending themselves or arming themselves without getting permission from your gestapo so they can be checked why dont you put a bar code on our foreheads while your making sure were fit to buy or purchase.
Or while your 'judges'decide whether that thug I shot in the parking lot was a 'legal' use of a gun since I didnt have my permit with me.(Hypothetical my dear LEO's no need to trace the accout)
And the federal
government can help. ---
I think most of us have had way more of your
help than is possibly good for us or the country and are simply sick and fuxking tired of having it crammed down our throats for your pockets in the name of the children.
Im going to be voting socialist lite this year.
But thats not what bothers me...
it bothers me that I can still sleep knowing that.
But Ive cost myself about 3 guns now working with GOA to try and elect pro-freedom congressmen who wont let either of these socialists 'help us' any more.
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"those who sacrifice
liberty for security deserve neither"
law-abiding citizens ought to be allowed to
protect themselves and their families. ---
OH really then youve got your work cut out for you.And would that be after or before I spend 200 bucks for the permit to protect
my family???
I believe that we ought to keep guns out of
the hands of people who shouldn't have
them.----Yeah we know but the big problems is that you and Gore both think you have a clue as to whos are the 'wrong' hands and what guns can be held by those hands.
That's why I'm for instant
background checks at gun shows.---Mmm wow
Instant gun registration with the federal government Adolf must by laughing in his grave and admiring how far weve come.
WE have almost complete control over whether persons can transfer private property or not and let a computer decide whether they have the freedom to do so or not.Hmmm
Computers decided who gets guns computers count the votes last, dang I just love a computerized society dont you?
I'm for
trigger locks. I think that makes sense.
Matter of fact, we distributed free trigger
locks in the state of Texas so that people
can get them and put them on their guns
to make their guns more safe.------
Dawm lock our guns up to make us safer.
And all this time I had this strange notion
that working guns made us safer and better able to combat crime.Goreugood sure didnt whine about that one now did he.
So all this time Ive been endangering the neighbors,the kids the wife by having an accessible firearm for the gangbangers that tend to leave 10 minutes before the cops finish their donuts.
But I also believe strongly that we need to
enforce laws on the books, that the best
way to make sure that we keep our society
safe and secure is to hold people
accountable for breaking the law. --
Well Ill be I knew someone was going to bring up the laws that are meant to 'protect us'.Fraid hell have to get in line behind a long list of 'great' leaders that thought the people should be held accountable for exercising what they once thought were freedoms like Adolf HItler, Mussolini, Castro and even Comrade Clinton.
Now I will grant you this these men were more concerned about going after subjects that knew the law rather than those that made a 'killing' off of breaking them but still they were concerned about the law of the land just the same 'All jews will be exterminated'
Guns will be kept out of the 'WRONG' hands.
Boys and girls of TFL guess whos hands will never be considered 'WRONG' hands??
If we
catch somebody illegally selling a gun,
there needs to be a consequence. We keep
-- somebody, you know, illegally using a
gun, there needs to be a consequence.
Enforcement of law. ---Heaven forbid they consider defending themselves or arming themselves without getting permission from your gestapo so they can be checked why dont you put a bar code on our foreheads while your making sure were fit to buy or purchase.
Or while your 'judges'decide whether that thug I shot in the parking lot was a 'legal' use of a gun since I didnt have my permit with me.(Hypothetical my dear LEO's no need to trace the accout)
And the federal
government can help. ---
I think most of us have had way more of your
help than is possibly good for us or the country and are simply sick and fuxking tired of having it crammed down our throats for your pockets in the name of the children.
Im going to be voting socialist lite this year.
But thats not what bothers me...
it bothers me that I can still sleep knowing that.
But Ive cost myself about 3 guns now working with GOA to try and elect pro-freedom congressmen who wont let either of these socialists 'help us' any more.
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"those who sacrifice
liberty for security deserve neither"
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>The federal government has been reduced in size by more than 300,000 people, and it's now the smallest number that we have had since -- the smallest in size since John Kennedy's administration.[/quote]
True enough. What is left unsaid, though, is that those 300,000 civil service employees have been replaced with over twice that many federally contracted workers who are being paid out of a different pot of money, but which still comes out of our pockets. So yes, technically he has reduced the size of government...
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"...and he that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one."
Luke 22:36
"An armed society is a polite society."
Robert Heinlein
"Power corrupts. Absolute power - is kinda cool!"
Fred Reed
True enough. What is left unsaid, though, is that those 300,000 civil service employees have been replaced with over twice that many federally contracted workers who are being paid out of a different pot of money, but which still comes out of our pockets. So yes, technically he has reduced the size of government...
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"...and he that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one."
Luke 22:36
"An armed society is a polite society."
Robert Heinlein
"Power corrupts. Absolute power - is kinda cool!"
Fred Reed