I'll get some serious flack for this but tough, bring it on.
Facts:
1) A bunch of acknowledged and known misfits ; some 20+ in number, went nuts and shot up a school. Remembering highschool, a closeknit group of 20+ like-thinkers does not escape some degree of attention.
2) Said misfits broadcasted threats and their brand of hate for ample time prior to their actions
3) Students of school state that said misfits had made threats
4) The police deny any prior knowledge of the existence of said misfits
5) School "authorities" apparently did nothing to avert said threats, and at this point in time, have not acknowledged awareness of threats.
OK, so given our current-day intrusive society, wherein almost any move one makes is known, why didn't the school, social welfare, child services, et al do anything prior to this incident? What about the parents? I'm a lot younger than many of you, but when I stepped out of line, I had no end of grief.
I went to a Catholic school until I began highschool....the nuns were not there to be my friends, they were my bosses. Sure I rankled, but I learned self-discipline. If I kept my mouth shut, they didn't invade my mind. They also taught personal responsibility for actions. I went to school with rich kids and poor migrant farm kids.
This new Colorado incident is going to bring a torrent of anti-gun fervor, so get ready and get prepared...
We are going to see what this society really is all about and exactly why this incident happened...and that is the underlying belief system and impulses that we have elected to govern us and enact legislation:
Outlaw (or restrict) an activity or object that is not inherently wrong in order to prevent harm before it occurs.
This type of legislation creates crime in order to prevent crime. English common law distinguished between 2 types of crimes: malum in se morally wrong crime like murder, rape, theft and malum prohibitum activities wrong because of legislative pronouncement.
We have ample malum in se laws and everyday enact more malum prohibitum laws in the interest of "public safety", and these laws are Federalized. That means, that the act of "malum in se" is less than the act of "malum prohibitum"....meaning, the fact that I shot you is less wrong than the fact that I had the means to shoot you. This translates to: laws that criminalize innocent action in order to prevent crime before it occurs presumes guilt before the fact. Such laws operate on the principle that the conduct of criminals dictates the range of liberty that the society in toto may have. In short, a society that accomodates itself to crime.
This leads to, and we have all seen it, making personal responsibility irrevelant...there is more horror and evilness that I killed you with a gun than the fact I killed you at all.
This is all in the interests in safety, but, how can the world be made safe if we continue to make responsibility irrelevant?
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"Quis custodiet ipsos custodes"
Facts:
1) A bunch of acknowledged and known misfits ; some 20+ in number, went nuts and shot up a school. Remembering highschool, a closeknit group of 20+ like-thinkers does not escape some degree of attention.
2) Said misfits broadcasted threats and their brand of hate for ample time prior to their actions
3) Students of school state that said misfits had made threats
4) The police deny any prior knowledge of the existence of said misfits
5) School "authorities" apparently did nothing to avert said threats, and at this point in time, have not acknowledged awareness of threats.
OK, so given our current-day intrusive society, wherein almost any move one makes is known, why didn't the school, social welfare, child services, et al do anything prior to this incident? What about the parents? I'm a lot younger than many of you, but when I stepped out of line, I had no end of grief.
I went to a Catholic school until I began highschool....the nuns were not there to be my friends, they were my bosses. Sure I rankled, but I learned self-discipline. If I kept my mouth shut, they didn't invade my mind. They also taught personal responsibility for actions. I went to school with rich kids and poor migrant farm kids.
This new Colorado incident is going to bring a torrent of anti-gun fervor, so get ready and get prepared...
We are going to see what this society really is all about and exactly why this incident happened...and that is the underlying belief system and impulses that we have elected to govern us and enact legislation:
Outlaw (or restrict) an activity or object that is not inherently wrong in order to prevent harm before it occurs.
This type of legislation creates crime in order to prevent crime. English common law distinguished between 2 types of crimes: malum in se morally wrong crime like murder, rape, theft and malum prohibitum activities wrong because of legislative pronouncement.
We have ample malum in se laws and everyday enact more malum prohibitum laws in the interest of "public safety", and these laws are Federalized. That means, that the act of "malum in se" is less than the act of "malum prohibitum"....meaning, the fact that I shot you is less wrong than the fact that I had the means to shoot you. This translates to: laws that criminalize innocent action in order to prevent crime before it occurs presumes guilt before the fact. Such laws operate on the principle that the conduct of criminals dictates the range of liberty that the society in toto may have. In short, a society that accomodates itself to crime.
This leads to, and we have all seen it, making personal responsibility irrevelant...there is more horror and evilness that I killed you with a gun than the fact I killed you at all.
This is all in the interests in safety, but, how can the world be made safe if we continue to make responsibility irrelevant?
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"Quis custodiet ipsos custodes"