Well due to stupid NC laws I had to lock my pistol in the vehicle to go the library. Well afterwards while re holstering my 9 year old saw it. She asked me about it and I acted like I didn't hear her. Later I brought up what she saw to her. She was a little confused by it I could tell. I told her that many people were licensed to carry legally and I was one of them. About how I have known a couple of people who have been murdered, and if anyone every tried to rob or hurt us I was prepared. Both my kids know I have guns and both shot for the first time this summer. It is our family secret and no one, I mean no one is supposed to know that daddy has guns. I must admit, I feel a little uneasy about it.
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Daughter discovered I carry today.
- Thread starter baddarryl
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Sorry, I can't relate.
I think we not only live in different States, but in entirely different cultures.....quite possibly on entirely different planets.
I taught 4-H shooting sports to my kids and some of their classmates when they were 8. I take my kids' friends to the range. I have a foreign exchange student from Italy living in my home that is planning on joining the high school trap team in the spring. I have guns hanging on the wall of my dining room. I Carry, and all my kids know. I'm sure their friends know. The guys on the VFD with me know. It's a very small town, and there are no real secrets.
I can't imagine walking around mortified that somebody (even my own kin) might think I have agun on me.......
What would it feel like to OC? Live a little.
my 9 year old
Both my kids know I have guns and both shot for the first time this summer.
I mean no one is supposed to know that daddy has guns. I must admit, I feel a little uneasy about it.
I think we not only live in different States, but in entirely different cultures.....quite possibly on entirely different planets.
I taught 4-H shooting sports to my kids and some of their classmates when they were 8. I take my kids' friends to the range. I have a foreign exchange student from Italy living in my home that is planning on joining the high school trap team in the spring. I have guns hanging on the wall of my dining room. I Carry, and all my kids know. I'm sure their friends know. The guys on the VFD with me know. It's a very small town, and there are no real secrets.
I can't imagine walking around mortified that somebody (even my own kin) might think I have agun on me.......
What would it feel like to OC? Live a little.
Brian Pfleuger
Moderator Emeritus
Interesting. I have a 5yr old and a 3yr old. They both know I carry. They've "always" known and that's what makes it no big deal. It's never mentioned unless they happen to see me getting the gun and they'll say something like "Daddy, I know why you carry that little gun. It's in case a bad person tries to hurt us, huh?"
Yep. Sure is.
No big deal.
Yep. Sure is.
No big deal.
I guess where I am coming from is one of them blabbing to their friends and the older crackhead brother hears about it and wants to break in.......damn, am I getting ahead of my self? Lots of break ins around here, also lots of guns. NC I don't think that different culturally from any other gun friendly state. Maybe, maybe not. I guess part of me just didn't want them to know I carry for some reason.
Both my kids are young adults (21 & 19). They know I am licensed to carry concealed. If they know when I am doing so I have never heard them mention it. Also I don't really mind people knowing I own "a" gun. I just wish they weren't so free with the info that I have "a ton" of guns. Not everybody needs to know. I don't really have "a ton" of guns, but I do have several. Some people think if you have more than 1 or 2 that you are a nut, terrorist, survivalist, militia or some such maligned figure. I try to keep most of my guns in a secure location where children can't get to them, but determined burglars probably could. That is why I would prefer few people knew about my firearms. They are not expensive, but they are mine. Also as to carrying, concealed means not everybody knows.
Some people think if you have more than 1 or 2 that you are a nut, terrorist, survivalist, militia or some such maligned figure.
Maligned by who, exactly? Just because the MSM/popular sentiment call you a nut for having the means to be self sufficient for a period of time does not make you a nut..... I think those who throw those names around the most are trying to reassure themselves that they are not fools for trusting in a system made by and for selfish men...... call me crazy, but mocking the self reliant to make themselves feel better does not help them at all...... let them say what they want.
I think folks who have less than a large caliber bolt rifle, a shotgun, a handgun for every adult in the house, and a .22 rifle and a .22 pistol, and at least 100 rounds of ammo for all of the above are ...... underequipped.
What is the problem here baddarryl? Are you ashamed of your firearms? You should not be.
You should have already introduced (at least the safe handling side) your firearms to your daughter (children) years ago. If you take the mystery out of firearms, your children will be much less likely to make a mistake if they find one.
We had 5 daughters (all married with their own families now). They knew daddy had guns, he OC'd, I'm not ashamed of mine... and we all shot as soon as they were old enough to shoulder a "boy's" single shot 22, then their mom's .22 target pistols when they could hold them properly. For some reason, there is not one of those 5 girls that is afraid of guns...wonder why?
You should have already introduced (at least the safe handling side) your firearms to your daughter (children) years ago. If you take the mystery out of firearms, your children will be much less likely to make a mistake if they find one.
We had 5 daughters (all married with their own families now). They knew daddy had guns, he OC'd, I'm not ashamed of mine... and we all shot as soon as they were old enough to shoulder a "boy's" single shot 22, then their mom's .22 target pistols when they could hold them properly. For some reason, there is not one of those 5 girls that is afraid of guns...wonder why?
Baddaryl, I see where you are coming from. Letting the people who surround you know that you have the financing for maybe a thousand hits of meth sitting in your closets ain't a good idea. You've got to leave that house sometime. and seriously, it would be reasonable to assume that at least a few of the people whom your kids will know will grow up to be hoodlums, and may take advantage of the knowledge that you possess guns.
My father in law was a shooter. A real serious hobbyist. But like many others who are obsessed with firearms, a few of his tinkertoys had some loose sockets. Even though the entire world knew he was a shooter, he coached the teams, joined all the clubs, had NRA stickers on his truck, and wore the cap with the winchester logo, he still insisted that his guns were a state secret. If he found out that one of the kids was talking about his collection, he came unglued.
He created a storage vault in his crawlspace that required nearly an hour to open. you had to open the closet, empty it, and then take up planks, then go into the vault and hand them up through the floor, and in the interests of security, he stacked boxes of magazines and furniture in front of the closet door.
My father in law was a shooter. A real serious hobbyist. But like many others who are obsessed with firearms, a few of his tinkertoys had some loose sockets. Even though the entire world knew he was a shooter, he coached the teams, joined all the clubs, had NRA stickers on his truck, and wore the cap with the winchester logo, he still insisted that his guns were a state secret. If he found out that one of the kids was talking about his collection, he came unglued.
He created a storage vault in his crawlspace that required nearly an hour to open. you had to open the closet, empty it, and then take up planks, then go into the vault and hand them up through the floor, and in the interests of security, he stacked boxes of magazines and furniture in front of the closet door.
I've spent a lot of time in NC and have a lot of family living there. From what I have seen the state is as gun friendly as any in terms of laws, but not in terms of culture and public attitude towards guns.
I would consider NC one of the "border states", not outright hostility as in most of the northeast but uneasiness about guns and not something you see everyday openly like in the midwest, AL, Miss, Louisiana, FL and GA.
I would consider NC one of the "border states", not outright hostility as in most of the northeast but uneasiness about guns and not something you see everyday openly like in the midwest, AL, Miss, Louisiana, FL and GA.
jimbob86,
I agree with you on this issue. As to the malignment issue, watch the news and read the papers for sensational reporting. Most of the news media is biased against guns, religion, individualism, conservativism, and freedom and want help lead our nation into a sheep pen where we can be easily controlled. Whoa! I better stop before I get worked up.
I agree with you on this issue. As to the malignment issue, watch the news and read the papers for sensational reporting. Most of the news media is biased against guns, religion, individualism, conservativism, and freedom and want help lead our nation into a sheep pen where we can be easily controlled. Whoa! I better stop before I get worked up.
Aguila Blanca
Staff
No, you are not getting ahead of yourself. Your concern is VERY valid. One would hope that 9 years old is old enough to understand when Daddy says "DO NOT talk about this to ANYONE outside the family," she'll hear and heed. But you never know.I guess where I am coming from is one of them blabbing to their friends and the older crackhead brother hears about it and wants to break in.......damn, am I getting ahead of my self?
When I was a kid, we had a bunch of aunts, uncles, cousins, and the maternal grandparents all living within a mile of each other on various portions of what had been the family farm. It was clearly understood by all us kids that there were things discussed by the adults at the grandparents' house that were NOT to be mentioned outside of the family. 60 years later, as far as I know those things were never mentioned, and that's the way it should be.
Kmax... WA, OR and ID (the states I spend most of my time in) are very open to OC. Even in a big city like Seattle, Spokane, or Boise (Portland not so much, though still legal, but only with a permit) but in all of those cities, the media is much less friendly to firearms than the general public or even the local LE is.
Our laws are quite gun friendly, both unlicensed OC and shall issue CC very few restrictions. Library..not a problem here. Seattle tried a parks ban and got it's hand slapped buy the courts.
A couple days ago in ID a concealed permit holder stopped a robbery, (Big man (BG) with a knife, little woman victim). The Good Samaritan was congratulated by the police. One newspaper reported the event and congratulations,..6 television stations and 5 other newspapers (in Northern Idaho and Eastern Washington) ignored what happened and did not even report on what happened.
Our laws are quite gun friendly, both unlicensed OC and shall issue CC very few restrictions. Library..not a problem here. Seattle tried a parks ban and got it's hand slapped buy the courts.
A couple days ago in ID a concealed permit holder stopped a robbery, (Big man (BG) with a knife, little woman victim). The Good Samaritan was congratulated by the police. One newspaper reported the event and congratulations,..6 television stations and 5 other newspapers (in Northern Idaho and Eastern Washington) ignored what happened and did not even report on what happened.
No I am not ashamed of my guns or that I carry. My kids have been taught about them, what to do if they find one, and now finally how to shoot. My son is a little immature so I was waiting until recently. All the same, I felt a little strange letting them know I carry. They already sadly think the world is a more dangerous place than it is due to incompetent comments my my now ex wife and her 'exploits'. I guess I just didn't want to play more into that then necessary.
I guess where I am coming from is one of them blabbing to their friends and the older crackhead brother hears about it
Part of the job of being the parent is to keep your kids as far away from crackheads (etc.) as possible..... meaning you have to know who their friends are and what kind of people they are..... "Sally has a 23 year old brother? He lives at home? Still? Really?........... no, you can't spend the night at Sally's."
I like my small town.
Kreyzhorse
New member
She asked me about it and I acted like I didn't hear her.
I was brought up to respect guns and learned to shoot at an early age. It is something that I've enjoyed ever since.
Just my opinion, but I don't believe that it was a bad thing that your 9 year old just learned you conceal carry. In fact, it likely better that she knows than she didn't.
AirForceShooter
New member
Forget the gun part for a moment.
All kids are taught there are some things that stay in the family. Mom and Dad had a fight over mney. We don't talk about that outside the house.
Stuff like that.
It's not unusual for kids to keep some things secret.
So adding guns to the list is no biggie.
Kids are used to it.
If they ask why they shouldn't discuss it, tell them the truth.
AFS
All kids are taught there are some things that stay in the family. Mom and Dad had a fight over mney. We don't talk about that outside the house.
Stuff like that.
It's not unusual for kids to keep some things secret.
So adding guns to the list is no biggie.
Kids are used to it.
If they ask why they shouldn't discuss it, tell them the truth.
AFS
Brian Pfleuger
Moderator Emeritus
I was brought up to respect guns and learned to shoot at an early age. It is something that I've enjoyed ever since.
Just my opinion, but I don't believe that it was a bad thing that your 9 year old just learned you conceal carry. In fact, it likely better that she knows than she didn't.
Expounding on this a bit....
Imagine if you actually have to use your gun with your daughter present. If she doesn't even know you carry one and you pull it and start shooting or start yelling instructions, how does she react?
Further, you don't want to HAVE TO shout instructions in a life or death incident. By her age, she should have basic instructions on how to react, even if it's just "run behind a car and hide", "turn around and run back to the store" or "grab moms hand and run with her".
You have your gun to protect your family. At some point, they have to be in on the plan.
I just didn't want to play more into that then necessary.
I would agree in a mostly neutral stance in all things, I will tell you why. I up to the age of 13 grew up in a very anti gun household. No toy guns. Any questions about guns answered with they are the root of all evil type of stuff. At that year I went to live with my older half brother (much older). He used to conceal carry daily given the bad neighborhoods I grew up in (The neighborhood where my parents was in was just as bad and we were broken into more then once). Even before when I went to live with him it never, even as a child, made sense to me that guns were evil. I clearly remember thinking along the lines of wouldent it be better to have one in case someone breaks in again, and I remember the house I was in at the time, it would have been around ages 6-8. I ultimately view them as recreation and protection now, but my point is this, No matter what you try to teach them, your kids will always have there own thoughts and ideals, no matter what environment you present to them to some degree they will question internally. Stay neutral and let them make there own mind up about tools and ideas. I have never once in my life used street drugs, even though they were present all around me. My older brother merely highlighted the negative aspects of using them and pointed out the drunks shuffling out of the strip club late at night and said it would make me look like that. He never said dont use them, he said this is what you become with them. It worked. Your kids are able to make up there own mind, and are able to make good decisions if given the pros and cons of things. Guns are a tool, and like any tool they can be dangerous, teach them about the danger but not to blindly fear a tool. Also teach them about the usefulness and positive aspects of it. Be neutral but give all of the info good and bad.
I guess where I am coming from is one of them blabbing to their friends and the older crackhead brother hears about it and wants to break in
Sit down with your daughter and explain to her your concerns about this. Explain why you think it is important for her to keep this knowledge to herself instead of sharing with her friends. 9 years old can be pretty sophisticated these days and are quite able to understand risks/consequences.