Dardick Automatic Revolver

Nick19

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I'm curious about the mechanism for this
handgun. I understand that the concept
of the Dardick gun and its triangular (troichoidal) ammunition (Trounds) are in use in some military applications, but the handgun is no longer produced. It seems like an interesting concept, but I'd like to see more.

-Nick19
 
I've wondered about the Dardick system too. The handgun looks like a hairdrier handle with a barrel and the '99 Standard Catalog of Firearms only says that "The action of these arms consists of a revolving carrier that brings the trounds(triangular plastic case enclosing a cartridge) from the magazine into line with the barrel." Any idea about the performance of the .38 Dardick tround? JT
 
I have never seen a Dardick pistol but I do own one of the Trounds in my cartridge collection. It is a triangular plastic case with a small pistol primer in one end and a FMJ bullet seated below the edge of the case. The weight of the bullet is unknown but I imagine it may be 158 grains...7th

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The revolvers had a odd cylinder that had three openings in the sides that fit the cases. The magazine in the butt held 17 rounds, if I remember correctly, that were loaded via a stripper clip. The top most round in the magazine fit into the opening, pulling the trigger revolved the cylinder and cocked the striker, the topstrap served as the outer side of the chamber, after the round was fired and the trigger was pulled the next time the expended case would drop out of the opening on the right side of the frame. The outer radius of the Tround(tm) was the same as that of the cylinder.

I was able to fire one of the revolvers, it had a wierd trigger pull, no muzzle weight and the barrel wanted to loosen while being fired. The last fault, I beileve, came from the following.

There was a .22 conversion unit that consisted of another barrel that would prevent the use of the .38 Trounds while it was in place. There also was a rifle conversion where the pistol barel was removed and the pistol frame was inserted in the rifle and the longer barrel attached.

The Navy was interested at one time in Dardick's cannon but nothing beyond testing came of it. For a while Dardick or his company was making kiln guns that fired BIG Trounds to break up slag.

I hope that this is of some help.

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David Dardick had the idea in 1949, announced the pistol in 1954, and sold the gun in small numbers until production end -1962.
The Dardick Open Chamber Gun can be likened to a revolver, in which the cylinder is formed with 3 triangular cut-outs in its periphery to act as a transporter-cum-breech.
Ammunition ('Trounds')is contained in a box magazine, inserted in the butt of the gun.
The Trounds were forced up the magazine by a spring to enter the open recess in the cylinder.
Pressing the trigger :
: rotated the cylinder to receive the next round
: brought the 1st round into position behind the barrel
: fired it
: then moved on to eject the case and,
at the same time, present another recess for loading from the magazine, until the magazine was empty.
Trounds were retained in the cylinder by the top strap of the frame, and a thin metal shroud containing the ejection port.
The peculiar shape of the cartridge was achieved by taking standard commercial rounds, and loading them into 'trochoidal' plastic outer cases. Dardick envisaged making brass cases of the appropriate shape once demand grew, but this stage was never reached.
The Model 1100 - had a small grip, an 11 round magazine, and a 3 inch barrel.
The Model 1500 - had a larger grip, a 15 round magazine, and a 6 inch barrel as std, but other alternatives were advertised.
The Model 1500 could be converted into a carbine - with a shoulder stock, and a special long barrel.
Both the 1100 & the 1500 chambered the '.38 Dardick Special' (the normal .38 Special in the plastic casing), but by using adapters and interchangable barrels, Dardicks could chamber : .38S&W Long, 9x19, .22lr cartridges.
Although the Dardicks worked, there was sales resistance. Ammunition was not readily available, and compared to conventional pistols, they were expensive.
The Model 1500 in 1960 cost $99.50, compared to the Colt Trooper for $74.60.
The combination of these factors led to the Dardicks failure.
 
Just an extra note. Gun Parts Corp (NY) have:
: Trounds - .38 Dardick Specials - box of 20 ($45), or individually ($3.50), limited supply.
: Model 1500 parts (inc mags) - some parts in limited supply.
 
Thanks for the replies; it doesn't seem like a pistol of this design has much to offer over a conventional automatic pistol, although it seems like you could get a longer barrel for a given overall firearm length, the gun would be thicker. And the ability to use plastic (or presumably caseless or consumable case) ammunition is also an interesting feature.
 
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