Dan Rather, and smart guns

SAGewehr

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The CBS News, aided and abetted by Josh Sugarman, just did a piece whining about the fact that new "smart gun" technology might convince people who might not otherwise buy a gun to do so. This, added to the fact that guns are virtually indestructible, led the dynamic duo to lament that the result could be that the number of guns in the country would go up, not down. The piece warned that a 100-year-old gun would kill someone just as dead as a new gun. God, I hope so...

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Every nation has the government it deserves. - Joseph de Maistre
 
ding, ding, ding!
Yep in fact, i will bet that Harry homeowner will buy a smart gun cause it is safe and then while he is out shooting at the range, he will see a colt 1911 .45. He will get the .45 itch.
Then he will see a Glock...

If smart guns are a market reality, then we should go out of our way to embrace the new smartgun owners. We will increase our numbers.

dZ
 
The whole "smart gun" debate is academic until they make one that works -- really works, by allowing the right people instant access to defensive capability while denying it to others. I have not seen anything yet that looks workable.

My worry is that someone will make something that looks (to non-gun-savvy people) like it works, then get it mandated in law with no "grandfather" clause for previous designs. Remember when California tried to mandate zero-emission vehicles? They had to back off because practical technology wasn't there yet, but if they did the same for guns, what is there to make them reconsider?
 
Why then, we better just ban all guns - Josh1

Oops, the plan slips out.

Time to go for a stroll in Central Park with your wife and daughters during a parade!
 
Since smart guns are so much safer and better for everyone, then it stands to reason that law enforcement should be the first to benefit from this new breakthrough, right? So let's make sure all cops have these smart guns before we start wasting them on the less deserving civilian market.

A wave of cops and their unions standing up against so-called "smart" guns would be a development I'd dearly love to see The Evil Al Gore and his Satanic minions explain...
 
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"With proper care and feeding a gun can last forever. So if smart gun advocates are thinking that the old guns are going to wear out, and this will be the next generation to replace them, they're mistaken.”
Josh Sugarmann, Director, Violence Policy Center[/quote]


Gun Safety Solutions May Backfire

Politicians Love Gun Locks; Critics See Wider Problem
Seems Many Old Lock-Free Guns Might Never Die
Gun Buyback Programs May Take Decades To Work

WASHINGTON, July 6, 2000

CBS
Critics worry that people will be led to think guns are safe enough for any home.


(CBS) With almost every publicized incidence of gun-related violence in America, there is a louder cry for gun control.

In examining some of the proposed solutions, CBS News Correspondent Jim Stewart found the leading presidential candidates are high on gun locks, but that critics think politicians are not seeing the whole picture.

Governor George W. Bush thinks gun locks are such a good idea, he'd give them away if elected president. Vice President Al Gore would even require that a lock come with every new gun.

And both men think "smart gun" technology -- the kind in which a gun will only fire for its lawful owner -- is so hot they'd spend millions more on its development.

But even as the candidates and more and more state legislatures turn to new technologies to solve America's gun problem, critics say they're overlooking one simple fact.

"With proper care and feeding a gun can last forever,” says Josh Sugarmann, Director of the Violence Policy Center. “So if smart gun advocates are thinking that the old guns are going to wear out, and this will be the next generation to replace them, they're mistaken.”

In fact, not one of the proposals offered by the candidates, and not one of the recent laws passed by the states, would have any impact whatsoever on the 192 million guns already in American homes. Only new gun purchases would be affected, even though a gun made 100 years ago will kill you just as dead as one made tomorrow.

Just ask James McCoskey, a retired general and gun enthusiast who has some rather old firearms among his collection of nearly 100 pieces. “Oh, they all work.”

And in the most recent example of old guns never fading away, McCoskey says the military is returning to an 89-year-old .45 caliber pistol.

"Some special units are still clinging to this because there's no finer military handgun ever made. There's no question about it - it won't die."

As for police-sponsored gun buyback programs, they typically collect only old and broken firearms. Under this plan it might take decades to whittle away at the nation's gun supply.

And in the meantime, guns like the one a first-grader got from home to kill his classmate with earlier this year wouldn't be affected by trigger lock laws, because it was an old gun, and not a new sale.

And as for smart gun technology, critics now worry that people will be led to think guns are safe enough for any home.

“One survey found that 35 percent of people who never considered buying a handgun would consider buying a smart gun,” says the Violence Policy Institute’s Josh Sugarmann. “What's happened is gun control advocates have unwittingly helped the gun industry create a new market.”

And it’s a new market so big that Colt Firearms alone estimates it could probably sell 60 million new handguns if it could advertise them as safer, and smarter— firearms for the future.


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not really a big point in the article....

"And in the meantime, guns like the one a first-grader got from home to kill his classmate with earlier this year wouldn't be affected by trigger lock laws, because it was an old gun, and not a new sale."

But they keep missing the point on this particular story as well as the other 99% of such cases.

The gun was a stolen gun, "owned" by a crack dealing drug-addict and the kid was living there because his "parents" were in jail.

The kid getting the gun had nothing to do with those of us law-abiding subjects...errr....CITIZENS. It was criminal all the way around.
 
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