Damn DemoRATS!!!

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Te Anau

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At every turn when they are in a position of "power",our freedoms as Americans are at great risk.Take the new assault ban recently introduced or Daly :barf: in Chicago.What happened to the party of the people? What happened to the John Kennedys? Todays DemoRATS are little more than socialist thugs on a rampage!
They are far closer to the ideals of Stalin,Mussolini or Hitler than any "mainstream" political party in American history.Their obsession with control will lead this country into the toilet or another civil war.Thats my take.:mad: :mad: :mad:
 
You're only half right. Our freedoms have really taken it in the shorts since 2001, for example, but the DemoRATS were only half to blame. The Republicans love control and big government as well...both parties are cut from the same cloth nowadays.
 
"both parties are cut from the same cloth nowadays."

Thats my opinion as well.

Republicans have no basis for a "holier than thou" attitude; especially with the implications that have come to light during the past few years.

There are also many Republicans that wish to infringe on our rights, its just different issues.


Dont throw stones when you live in a glass house.
 
Freedom will always be in jeopardy whenever fear and ignorance abound. Our panic and paranoia regarding terrorism has just been a catalyst for oppressive propositions on both sides of the political spectrum. Take a big whiff guys...smells of things to come...unless we are 24/7/365 omnipotent.




Curiosity yields evolution...satiety yields extinction.
 
Speaking as a Democrat, I'm trying to make them more pro-gun.

It's hard to win in a place like Chicago, where the Daley Dynasty reigns unchallenged :barf: . But you'd be surprised how many pro-gun Democrats are out there.

I doubt you'll see more than a few token anti-gun bills on the Federal level - the Democrats know perfectly well that gun control cost them control of Congress back in '94, and there just aren't enough votes to support such legislation.

The place where Democrats are gaining the most ground nationwide is in the western states - Colorado, Montana, etc. And there's absolutely no way that gun control will fly in those states, and newly elected Democratic representatives from that state won't support it.

I'm personally far more scared of the Republicans. Gone is the party of fiscal responsibility, sensible foreign policy and individual rights. Now it's all neo-conservatism and fundamentalism. They've been spending like drunken frat boys with their first credit cards, they created a monumental disaster in Iraq, they want to do it again in Iran, and they stripped us of habeas corpus and our Fourth Amendment rights. You think they'll let us keep our Second Amendment rights for anything other than show? The Republican party I used to vote for is dead.

My bet is that in a few years, the Democrats will be championing gun rights and the Republicans will inexplicably be pushing for draconian gun control.
 
"They are far closer to the ideals of Stalin,Mussolini or Hitler than any "mainstream" political party in American history.Their obsession with control will lead this country into the toilet or another civil war."

Christ, this type of stuff is a terrible representation of firearm owners.

Close to the ideals of Stalin, Mussolini and Hitler? Why? Because of a polarized anti-gun policy?:rolleyes:

Stalin - Extreme left Communist.

Mussolini, Hitler - Extreme right Facists.

Can it get anymore different or is it just the Dictatorship element that you are comparing, just asking because you said that a bunch of pro-Capitalist Center-Rightists(Democrats) have close ideals to both Stalin and then your Fascist combo right there.

Just because someone is anti-gun, doesn't make them an extreme leftist, it doesn't make them anything but anti-gun because anti-gun is a singular policy on a singular issue. Got it?
 
Te Anau said:
Damn DemoRATS!!!
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I agree, but sadly there are problems with both political parties now... At least you have a chance with a Republican; you have no chance at all with a Democrat.
 
I would like to ask a sincere question, from the perspective of a non-American in whose country no civilian is allowed to own a fully automatic weapon. So please don't flame me.

What purpose does a military-issue assault rifle with a firing rate of 300rd/m and more serve in the hands of a civilian?
 
rainynight65

I would like to ask a sincere question, from the perspective of a non-American in whose country no civilian is allowed to own a fully automatic weapon. So please don't flame me.

What purpose does a military-issue assault rifle with a firing rate of 300rd/m and more serve in the hands of a civilian?
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This is a sincere answer; because the Second Amendment to the Constitution of the United States guarantees that unalienable right.
 
rainynight65

"You did not answer my question as to what purpose it serves."
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That is what's so cool about exercising a right.......you don't have to explain yourself to anyone. If the right exists, you are free to exercise that right and you are beholding to nobody. Is that a concept that you can understand?
 
I would like to ask a sincere question, from the perspective of a non-American in whose country no civilian is allowed to own a fully automatic weapon. So please don't flame me.

What purpose does a military-issue assault rifle with a firing rate of 300rd/m and more serve in the hands of a civilian?
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Largely, what Wildalaska said. Though really "end of the world as we know it" scenarios aren't necessary to come up with situations where I'd feel more comfortable if I was armed with "military-grade" weaponry. See any of the various riots we've had in our cities over the years. Assuming such weapons will exist, and that as such can end up in the hands of those might do me harm, why should I not be able to own them as well?

Also, while this might seem silly, we do still have a draft in place. I see no reason why any eligible citizen might not want to purchase a weapon of the type commonly in use by our armed forces in order to familiarize themselves with it and improve their skill with it. I know I wouldn't want to depend on whatever crash-course they ran me through before I got shipped off. Of course, this only justifies the ownership of a pretty limited subset of "assault weapons."
 
Define "limited subset".

Edit: I do get your point. But do it anyway. Humour me. Maybe this can become an actual discussion
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Well, that particular argument (preparation for military draft/national defense) is only an argument for private ownership of weapons from (in the US) the AR-15 family, the Beretta 92 family, possibly a few others. Basically weapons currently in use by the military. Since that's what you'll be issued.

Of course, once you allow those weapons there's no reason logically not to allow other similar weapons, and other "assault weapons" that are technically less effective and dangerous.
 
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would like to ask a sincere question, from the perspective of a non-American in whose country no civilian is allowed to own a fully automatic weapon. So please don't flame me.
What purpose does a military-issue assault rifle with a firing rate of 300rd/m and more serve in the hands of a civilian?
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Because I can......legally.
 
What purpose does a military-issue assault rifle with a firing rate of 300rd/m and more serve in the hands of a civilian?
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You do realize that fully automatic weapons are also illegal in our country and have been since 1939.

It sounds like your asking this question with hopes to understand the logic behind us being allowed to have them.

kenny b
 
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