CZ75B 300 Round Fit, Form and Function Session Report

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Will Beararms

New member
date: 12/27/2001]
location: indoor range in DFW, TX metro area
ammo: 300 rounds of Winchester 115 fmj grain target grade
weapon failures: zero
mag failures: one. the 15 round butchered to 10 round mag had a hung follower after the first ten rounds. the range master kindly repaired this and no further issues surfaced. the factory 15 rounder worked like a top.

groupings: 7 yard strings could not be measure as they were always one big hole. 15 yard groups averaged 2" with some below two inches. A direct hit to the nose bridge on an Osama target was made at fifteen yards as well. a guy two bays over was shooting a full size HK USP9. the cz at it's lunch in the accuracy department. the beretta 92 and the taurus pt99 were no match for the cz either. this was due strictly to last week's time with an instructor and the inherent accuracy of the cz not me. the accuracy reminded me of the sig without the buck that is rendered by the top heavy aluminum-framed sig classic line imho.

all controls were easy to access and manipulate. the trigger welcomed my ignition finger round after round and the safety lever was easily operated--------------a plus on a weapon meant to be carried cocked and locked. I noticed no visible signs of stress or wear. i paid close attention to the trigger pin and saw no problems.
 
Im shocked ...another happy CZ owner. LOL Congrats on your range test. The CZ mags with the plastic foot up its **tt are pretty cheesy, but mine have worked...so what the hell. Keep up the good shooting and have fun. Shoot well
 
After the second cleaning, conclusions have been drawn. First, the cz is a brush gun. This is to say that there's no need for concern over using a solvent to clean it up due to a sensitive frame----------------just soak a toothbrush in #9 and get after it. Next, there's gouging or metal deformation, er "peening" is non-existent-------------no mashed metal on the frame rails, internals or in the area where the slide stop mates with the frame. The slide is mated extremely well to the frame by full-length frame rails and since the frame encompasses the slide instead of the slide riding over the frame.

One word of caution: my CZ was stored for 5 years and there was no spec of rust anywhere but the slide was dry and I yanked so hard getting the slide off the frame during the intial cleaning that I dinged the rear end of the slide flaking the polymer finnish. It was promptly repaired with a birchwood casey matte black touch up pen. I admit that it initially broke my heart but the birchwood casey filled in the void and besides it has my "signature" now. After the first range session, it made no difference anyway.

The CZ had put an accuracy "whoopin" on an HK USP9, Glock 23, Beretta Cougar and a Beretta 92, I exited the firing line with a much better feeling than the week before when I had been pounded by the harsh report of the Smith 3953 and tormented by it's dismal accuracy.

As I entered the showroom area of the range I walked by the cases. I looked at the other $500-$800.00 9mm offerings but I couldn't help but ask myself why? Here I had a $369.00 handgun that tendered match grade accuracy out of the box, exhibited pussycat recoil, was capable of shooting any factory loaded 9mm regardless of the power level for extended periods with no concerns over undue damage and displayed quality workmanship in attractive package. "why?" I kept saying to myself as I exited the complex "why"?
 
WB, you wanna try PMP (South African 9 mm) in your CZ? It's a little dirty secret you should know about, this pretty cheap ($6/50) ammo gives me amazing accuracy in my CZ-75.

Your next move is to get CZ-97B. Along the lines of your "why",
most people have no idea they can have a match quality
.45 under $500. I can see CZ-97B being brought into competition
world when more accesories for it are available...
 
Will Beararms,

Glad to hear that you like your CZ. Mine is one of my favorite handguns.

Not trying to ruffle your feathers here, but I could put an accuracy whoopin on a SIG 210 with a Lorcin depending on who's shooting the SIG 210. I see a lot of poor shooters at the ranges, and their targets arent' indicative of the accuracy potential of their firearms.

Mind you, I'm not saying the CZ isn't accurate (I know different).

Shake
 
Like Shake said, next time you shoot, be sure that crowd around you is not bunch of monkeys, but there are at least a couple of
champs with usps, then if you still outshoot them, your CZ is O.K.

Great points, Shake.
 
Yup, CZ is a very nice pistol, I'm very happy with mine. I'm trying to decide if I should get that Kadet conversion or buy a CZ in a different caliber(.40?).
Decisions, decisions!
 
Yessir! Just got me one o dem CZ's of the 75B variety last Saturday. I like it right much. Not my choice for carryin tho. It makes my pants droop. Maybe I should look into the compact version. But this gun makes me appear better than I actually am. And I really dig the 15 round mag that I got with it. My only con with it is the 1st shot DA trigger position. My tiny digits have a little trouble reaching the trigger comfortably in this position. Also any suggestions about how to get the mag to fall more freely from the gun during mag exchanges?
 
Will,

Now that I read my post, it comes across a little pissy.

I wasn't attempting in any way to put a damper on your day at the range, or insinuate that your gun might not be as accurate as those you saw. Odds are it is more accurate than all just as you say.

You have every reason to be proud of your CZ (as you know). I, sure as apple pie is good, am proud of mine and the tight groups I get at the range.

My previous post was just a side note if anything.

Enjoy your CZ. I'm trying to decide which I want next (leaning toward a CZ75 Combat that I will hard chrome, add fancy wood grips, high grade sights, etc.).

Shake
 
Shake:

No need for sensitivity programming. Your points are put forth well and taken in with gratitude.

Will Beararms
C.I.T.
(Certified Insensitivity Trainer) :D
 
how much did you guys pay for your cz75b. My dealer in Ma. has the mil. models for 400 with one 10 and a 15 rd. mag. What do you think, I currently shott a sig 239 40, glock 23 40 and s.a. 1911a1.
 
Considering your'e in MA, that's not a bad deal mine was $369.00. I am gonna ruffle some feathers but I must say this weapon is one of the best shooting pistols I have ever had the pleasure to use. I will put it up against any 9mm made.

Word on the street is CZ will up the price on the next round of pistols that hit our shores.
 
Up here in Maine (Brewer), I paid $425 for a new CZ85B with the full complement: 2 x 10 round mags, cleaning tools, black case, target, snap cap, mag loader, instruction book. NIB.

I had to order it -- they do not stock them. But they got it in within 2 days (last spring)
 
I payed $321.00 with shiping for my military 75 and if I remember correctly the 85 was around $355.00. I would have too look up the paperwook to see who I ordered from though. Burns and CDNN I think. I traded the 85 for a Hi-Power though as I am right handed and the off side levers seemed to be a bulky waste of steel for me. Besides the guy tossed 50 bucks into the deal too. About the only plus I could see of the 85 over the 75 military was the grips and the 85 only came with one mag, a 10 rounder.
 
I second what Spiros said about the Kadet .22 conversion. I have no doubt that if I'd have taken a little more care fitting mine to the frame that it would be "match accurate". As it is, it's still right up there with my other .22's.
 
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