CZ75 Trigger

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maxinquaye

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Hi,

I've had a CZ 75B for a coupla months now, and am thinking about having a smith do some work on the trigger. Is it worth the money to have it done? Has anyone here given a good smith a shot at theirs? Mainly I would be looking to smooth up the single action, perhaps even lighten it if possible.

Comments appreciated.
 
Trigger jobs by professionals are always worth it if you can afford them. Is thsi for target or ofr carry? Is it a primary? Just be sure to use a reputable smith.

My friend has a EAA Witness with a butter smooth triggerjob. He thinks it was worth it.
 
Try a reduced power hammer spring from Wolff. Also clean the trigger/sear assemble with Gunscrubber or brake cleaner. A lot of dryfiring also helps.
My CZ75BD has a DA pull of 8 lbs and a SA pull of 4lbs and is very smooth.
 
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Yes it's worth it, had my cz75 sa trigger worked on by Mike at czusa, it's the best trigger i have on any of my guns now. You can find there customer service number on there website. One thing to remember is that Mike is not much at conversation but he is good and there customer service is good.
 
The trigger on my 75B is pretty darn good but hey they can always be better right? :) How much did CZ-USA get for the trigger job? I`ve also considered EGW, I live near them and they`re experienced with CZ/Witness lockwork. Marcus
 
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CZ-USA quotes $125 for a DA trigger job and 4-6 weeks delivery. Teddy Jacobson at www.actionsbyt.com is considered the top expert on action jobs and will do it in about two weeks for $110 if you send cash with the pistol, as opposed to a credit card order. I am also having him polish the ramp and re-crown the barrel. He puts in a Wolf hammer spring as others have mentioned, which is only about $7.50. I'll get it back next week.

How much have you fired it? Putting 500-1,000 rounds through or dry firing with a snap cap that amount is usually recommended first so the action is worn in a bit.
 
Along with the dry firing tip: you can also put in a reduced power hammer spring (15#) from Wolff yourself which will lighten the pull (costs $5). After a while, you probably won't need the trigger job.
 
The lighter power hammer springs won't buy you much. If you go to Wolff's site at
www.gunsprings.com they wil refer you to the area pertinent to EAA Witness. The lighter springs actually are heavier than the factory ones.

The real gain on a trigger for these guns is in the hands with a 'smith that can deal with the manufacturing weaknesses of the guns. I say that because most of the actions come out of east europe looking like they got fitted by a vampire and want Buffy to kick their collective a$$.

If your smith can't understand the action, then send it back to CZUSA for a good job.
 
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Just FYI Teddy has been vocal on the Pistolsmith Forum regarding the CZ`s action. He doesn`t care for them and has a hard time with them. I`d much sooner send my CZ to Evolution Gun Works where they`re more than happy to work on it and have had very good results. EGW has built some awesome Witness (CZ clone) based race guns and makes their own line of parts for them. They`re also really nice guys to deal with. They only mention a few guns on their website (1911s are their forte) but last I talked to them (about my Witness) they got $85 for a trigger job. Marcus
 
Wolff does sell lighter hammer springs

Web site says 20 lb is standard on EAA or CZ. Can buy 15, 16 or 17 lb to lighten pull.
 
Quick question on the CZ-USA trigger job: Did it cost $110 total, or did you have to pay the $35 (for next day air) each way to ship the gun? I could do $110 total, but if it's $180 total cause of shipping...
 
What pistolsmithing Forum?

On this board or elsewhere? I communicated with two other CZ owners who had Teddy do a trigger job on, and they were both very happy.
 
www.pistolsmith.com Teddy will do CZs but he doesn`t care for them and commented more than once that he has a hard time working on them. Would you take a Yamaha to a shop that specializes in Harleys and says "jap bikes" are junk and hard to work on? Nope,me either. Teddy seems like a nice guy,don`t get me wrong but no one does *everything* well. Marcus
 
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I found one message: "I work a lot of CZ pistols.It is not an easy gun to work on. They use roll pins but they are or can be reliable. Would I buy one ? NO The parts inside look like they have been cut with a file. Suggest you remove the plate that conceals your mainspring so that your magazines will drop out. They do feel good in your hand. THERE ARE BETTER CHOICES"

I spoke to him about this BEFORE I sent him the pistol. He brought it up. It is quite understandable that he doesn't like the internal finish - they're not the best and he is making fair commentary - and he told me this up front. I decided that his opinions were WAY different than mine and as he had done quite a few CZ's and did quality work, he got the gun. Evolution Gun Works doesn't even mention CZ (or the clones) on their www site, so I passed by them despite an excellent reputation. Anyone who mentions BHP's on their www site (but not CZ's) could surely do the work but the CZ's seem always second-class citizens - none of them even called me back. He called me back, he was honest, he's done plenty of them - good enough for me!

A friend of mine says that to be the perfect gunsmith, Teddy only needs to get an accent - he's already old and cranky enough!
 
Yep that`s one of the posts. I never said Teddy wasn`t a good smith or a good guy I just said he didn`t like CZs. Personally I just never take something to be worked on by someone who doesn`t like it. Why would I? Oh BTW the fact that he recomended removing the mag brake rather than straightening it or replacing it with a flat one from CZ also got my attention since CZ and CZ savy smiths tell you never to remove it because it also forms the rear of the mag well. Without it you can end up jamming your mags into the mainspring. George at EGW works mostly on 1911s but has built tons of Witness race guns and done trigger jobs on numerous CZs so he`s familliar with the CZ lockwork and he likes CZs fine. What really impressed me was that I was gonna buy a bunch of EGW parts for my 10mm Witness and he talked me out of them because I didn`t really need the stuff! Honesty like that is hard to come by. In the end I don`t really care where anyone sends their CZ, I just thought I should mention Teddy`s distain for them in case anyone else feels like I do about such things. :) Marcus
 
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>>> in the end I don`t really care where anyone sends their CZ, I just thought I should mention Teddy`s distain for them in case anyone else feels like I do about such things. Marcus

...To put it in perspective, I called or emailed a number of gunsmiths. CZUSA replied via email four days later & had a 4-6 week backlog. None of the HP specialists returned my phone calls. Most of the outfits like EGW and the HP specialists don't even mention CZ's on their www site. I tried a few smiths who advertise all kinds of custom M1911 work and they didn't seem interested or familiar with the gun.

Teddy does mention CZ's on his www site. When I called his wife answered but after learning the nature of my call handed him over.

He has done a bunch of them who seem to have happy owners. He mentioned on the phone that he did not think that CZ's have a very nice internal finish - and that's a fact. He also said it wasn't his favorite but that he could give me the pull and feel I wanted - 9lbs DA and 4 lbs SA. This was all before I made any commitment. He couldn't have been more honest about the pros and cons. He went on to say that he would repoint the night sights so they were more visible.

As I run my business by the old saying "Underpromise / overdeliver" I appreciated this approach and the fact that he delivers pretty regularly on the promised delivery time - he tells you up front that Police firearms take priority and you might get bumped. I won't have it back for another week or so, the proof of the "experiment" is in the shooting!
 
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