CZ P07 magazines and sights?

Should I spend the extra money on a CZ 75 P01 or just get the CZ P07?

  • CZ P07

    Votes: 13 50.0%

  • CZ P01

    Votes: 13 50.0%
  • Total voters
    26
  • Poll closed .
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Hey guys so I have been really taking a hard look at getting a new CZ. I really want the P01 or the P07 but seeings how the P07 is a lot cheaper and lighter and more available in my area I might just go with that. Both I'm sure would be great choices the one thing I'm worried about with the P07 is the magazines and sight availability and price. One reason I love glocks so much is there after market support. I know that the P07 magazines are insanely expensive which doesn't really make sense to me considering it kind of falls into the budget gun category. I have heard that the regular 75 mags will fit and work fine in it. And I'm wondering if that's true. And also does anybody know if they use a proprietary sighting system as well or can you use regular 75 type sights on that as well I can't seem to find anything on this HELP! Lol if you guys think I should spend the extra money for the P01 let me know and why Please and thank you.
 
My personal preference is for metal frame CZs, so I voted P01. According to CZ website they weight the same too - 28 ounces.
 
I'll agree -- the P-07 is a great gun. I've had many CZs, and think I like the P-07 best... (Although I have an 85 Combat that's pretty good, too.)

Standard 75 mags work, but they're not ideal -- they're slightly narrower and will move around in the grip.

I ordered some mags for the Canik Stingray-C from J&G Sales last year, and they're a perfect functional fit. (These mags also work with the Sphinx SDP, too.) I'd check with them if you fee you need some extra mags at a lower price.

Here's a copy of the order:

J&G Sales
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Order Number: xxxxxx
Detailed Invoice: https://www.jgsales.com (stuff deleted)
Date Ordered: Tuesday June 09, 2015

Products
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2 x Canik Stingray-C 9mm 15rd Magazine, Blued, New. (4-1021) = $49.90
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Sub-Total: $49.90
Ground items-$9.95: $9.95
Total: $59.85
 
They're both excellent firearms. I don't know if I'd base a decision on anything other than buying the one that calls to you. The P-07 mags are expensive but like Walt said, there are options to save a little money out there. I'm a proud owner of a P-07 and have zero regrets. Couldn't be happier.
 
I'm lucky enough to own both guns you are looking at...I think.

I've had my P-07 since 2012 and fired over 5000 rounds through it. Great gun with a nice trigger and easy maintenance. Had to send it back to CZ for a broken part a few months back and it was handled perfectly by them. Came back feeling like a new gun. Very pleased.

I bought the SP-01 version of the 2nd gun. It is set up for a silencer with high sights (tritium). It is all metal, very clean lines and shoots fantastically with a different trigger feel. For me, it is a different use gun than the P07. It is a range gun for me and in that roll it is fantastic. It's too heavy to carry regularly and too big. (For my frame)

For what I bought it for, it is perfect and another example of the excellence of CZ firearms.

Both of my guns came with 2 mags each. For me and my use of these guns they have been enough. Good to know that other mags will work though.

I voted for the P07 for it's versatility.

Good luck with your decision.
 
I've had my P-07 since 2012 and fired over 5000 rounds through it...

I bought the SP-01 version of the 2nd gun.
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The OP is asking for a comparison of the P07 and P01 and your comparison of the P07 v. SP01 (and comparing as carry guns) is a bit unfair. The SP-01 and P01 are not the same gun. The SP-01 is more than 12oz heavier than the P01 (40.7oz vs. 28.1oz), nearly 1" longer (8.15" vs. 7.2"), 3/4" taller in the grip (5.79" vs. 5.03") and almost 1/10" wider (1.46" vs. 1.38"). The SP-01 is a large range gun and definitely not well suited to CCW, the P01 is a compact and a good CCW gun. They do have a similar look though (both are CZ 75 based guns with an accessory rail).




For the OP, I do not have a P07, but I did recently buy a P01 (I have had a CZ 75B for around 15 years and I'm a big CZ fan). I can't give an account as someone who owns both, but I can give you the reasons I picked the P01 over the P07 (and as a teacher, I am definitely budget conscious).

Based upon measurements on the website, they are pretty close, though there are some differences. The weight difference (the P07 is 0.4oz lighter) is pretty marginal and on a good belt will be unnoticeable. The length is the same, and with a canted holster I'm not sure the height difference will be noticeable (the P07 is 0.27" taller). However, when I carry, I find the width of a gun makes a much bigger difference in its concealability than just about any other attribute (I carry IWB) so the 1.38" width of the P01 is definitely an advantage vs. the 1.46" width of the P07, though it wasn't the deciding factor.

When handling them at the gun shop and dry firing them, I found the P01 feels like a slightly smaller version of my beloved CZ 75B (or the 85 Combat a friend used to have). My CZ 75B fits my hands perfectly and I shoot it better than any of my other guns (even when I don't take it to the range for a while, I am always more accurate with it than any of my other guns, even when others have had much more use recently). On the other hand, the P07 doesn't have the same feel (though, this is just dry fire and handling at the shop, I haven't been able to compare them at the range). So, for me the deciding factor was how they felt compared to my CZ 75. The P01 feels like the gun I shoot best (only 1911s can compare) while the P07 feels like a completely different gun.


So, when recently looking at guns in this size class, I bought the P01. For me it was the better choice. However, both are good guns so you should go with whatever speaks to you. As others have said, there are alternatives to the P07 mags if you find them too expensive, and for the price difference between the P01 and P07, you can probably still buy a couple P07 mags so that definitely shouldn't be your deciding factor (though if you were thinking between the P07 vs. something like the Glock or M&P I can see it being a factor).

As for sights, I think the P01 and P07 will use the same sights. I'm pretty sure most of the P07 (other than the modular safety/decocker and the polymer) is based on the 75B series, but the compact and full sized guns do have different height sights.
 
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Have had both at the same time, I personally prefer the P-07, though they both shoot magnificently. The rear dovetail on the P-07 (and big brother P-09) is larger than the standard CZ 75's and all direct variants, so you can't swap sights between them, and you have a much smaller selection of available night sights.

I most certainly would not let the cost of a spare magazine dissuade you from the purchase if the pistol fits your hand and points naturally, and that is what you truly want to buy. Especially not if you get to shoot one and it does what you want it to do. But as others have said, they will both take standard CZ 75 mags, albeit wobbling some in the P-07.

Concerning dimensions, I hear a lot of people complain about how wide the P-07 is, but with proper holster and belt it doesn't make a difference, at least not for me anyway (I carry IWB while wearing shorts and T-shirt pretty much year round). The P-07 is wider up top in the slide, but if you compare the grip sizes, the (stock) P-01 is much thicker, which is a factor for me having smaller hands (due also in part to the pronounced palmswell on the factory rubber grips). True, I purchased aftermarket slim grip panels which helped out tremendously, but the P–07 still fit me better for my needs.

Anyway, enough about that. Here's some pictures I did a while back with both of them beside each other. You be the judge:

P-01 and P-07

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P-01 w/Thin G10 Grip Panels:

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If you came across a nice P-01 I'd pounce in it, these are much harder to come across than a P-07, although it would be nice to have both:rolleyes:
 
I really appreciate all the input guys but I think I made up my mind. I'm going to go with the P01 it just looks a lot sexier and I'm sure it feels better as well I cannot say for sure because I haven't even held one yet. But I did hold a P07 and while it felt great and there was actually a really good deal on a grey suppressor ready model at my local shop. I just couldn't get excited about it sure from a financial standpoint it's probably the smarter move but I'm sure as most of you know when it comes to men and firearms common sense goes right out the window lol. I was wondering if you guys know what the deal is with the sights do the P01's take the same sights as all the other standard 75's? And if so does the P07 take the same ones or does it use a proprietary sighting system? I haven't even held a P01 yet and already super exited to get my hands on one. I'm going to place an order for one soon. But I really am not digging not being able to hold it first. I haven't ever bought a firearm I haven't held for a while before hand. But another reason I'm gravitating more towards this gun is I literally can't find 1 single bad review on it I have looked through countless videos blogs and posts about this gun and not one person has said any actual faults about the gun besides maybe the slides a little small. Again I really appreciate all the help guys it means a lot. And please btw answer the sighting question I can't seem to find a straight answer the only reason I'm wondering is because I change the factory sights one most of my handguns especially my glocks lol.
 
wondering if you guys know what the deal is with the sights do the P01's take the same sights as all the other standard 75's? And if so does the P07 take the same ones or does it use a proprietary sighting system?
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Both are proprietary and are different from each other**.

**While I have a P-07, I've not messed with the sights (or even examined the rear sight closely), but am told that the rear sight is different and the dovetail won't accept the sights used on slides used with the metal-framed models. (The 40B and 40P -- use the same slide -- and that is a different rear sight, too...)

All of the 75-based models use the same dovetails, but the rear sights aren't always interchangeable...

The slides on these guns have a raised rib along the top of the slide, and that will interfere with some of the sights on various models:

  • The PCR has a Novak-like sight that extends forward from the rear dovetail, and the raised rib is removed in that area.
  • The 85 Combat has an adjustable rear sight that must sit low, and the rib is removed behind the dovetail to use that sight (and to allow it to crank down low enough.
  • Most of the other models don't have any part of the raised ribs removed.
I would expect there to be after-market sights available for any of these models... or get the dovetail specs and call Brownells or MIdway and find something that fits. Any part of the raised rib can be milled away if a new sight collides with the rib... and most gunsmiths can make that happen -- so can you with a Dremel and a lot of masking tape and a lot of careful attention to detail (and some cold blue or Duplicolor Matte Black auto body touch-up paint) when you're through.

I've had a BUNCH of CZs over the years. I really like the P-07, and may eventually spring for a P-09, when I find one USED at a good price. I just don't buy new guns much, any more. :D
 
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Yes -- but they'll extend out of the grip a bit farther than most like. They'll even work in the smaller RAMI model. (The mag's will also work in the P-07, but aren't as wide as the P-07 mags so there's a chance of some wiggle.)
 
I have five CZ pistols. All metal, either steel or alloy framed. I have the 75D PCR, which is somewhat similar to the P-01 without the rail. One of the reason I gravitate to CZ pistols is how their grip fits me. The metal framed CZ's have the more traditional CZ-75 grip. The P-07, and P-09 have a different polymer grip. The ergos just don't work as well for me. Still they are GREAT guns, so you cant go wrong
 
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