CVA .44 1851 brassframe Navy.

Yup!

RRR,

I agree with MCB. I have been shooting .454s from a Lyman mold with thirty grains and no wad. But I am sure I will get down to a lighter load.
 
I just recently bought one of these 1851's after getting a 5 and 1/2 inch barrel Remington. I have fired 30 grains of Pyro-P in the Remington and it is SWEET.:)

I wouldn't use that charge in the 1851 brasser.;)

The flyer that came with my 1851 (I got the round barrel version in .44 cal.) denotes no more than 25 grains of fffg blackpowder due to the brass frame.

I would use slightly less in 777 equiv. as it is a little hotter. Pyro-P is volumetric and should be O.K.

From what I've read from others who own brass frame guns, mild charges = long frame life and better accuracy, so... moderation is the key.

If I want to get funky and make loud noise and mucho smoke, I stuff the Remington and let her rip. That gun can take it.

The 1851 I recieved from Cabela's is very nice, well made, tight, indexes well and has good balance.

All my buds who've seen and held this gun like it!

All in all, I am pleased!:D
 
I started with the Max and worked my way down. 30grains way to much 25g. still a bit much (shot good 3in. @ 15 steps ) 20g. just right 2 1/2 @ same range. Getting a steel frame .36 & R&D 38 Colt(long Colt) con V this week. Do the Pale Rider thing with it ( get two more cylinder ) Also anyone rember those 36 to 38 S&W conv cylinders made about 15-20 years ago?
 
Apparently I'm loading too heavy then. I have the same revolver, brass frame navy, and was told its standard load was between 20 and 30 gr. I knew I could damage it loading heavy so I went with a 25 grain charge but I didn't realize that tripple7 was different.
I guess I need to back down to 20 and see how that works
 
Apparently I'm loading too heavy then. I have the same revolver, brass frame navy, and was told its standard load was between 20 and 30 gr. I knew I could damage it loading heavy so I went with a 25 grain charge but I didn't realize that tripple7 was different.
I guess I need to back down to 20 and see how that works

triple 7 loads should be reduced by 15% from black powder loads. I would not exceed 15-17grs of triple 7 in a brass frame .44. YMMV
 
After all the wisdom from the Cap'n, I'm thinking I want a scrap metal brasser to add to the mushy steel revolvers I have. You folks seem to agree that ~20 grains BP for a 44 is good. Does that apply to 1860s and 1858s as well?

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After all the wisdom from the Cap'n, I'm thinking I want a scrap metal brasser to add to the mushy steel revolvers I have. You folks seem to agree that ~20 grains BP for a 44 is good. Does that apply to 1860s and 1858s as well?

A general rule of thumb, starting load for steel frame is half the caliber size. a .44 would 'start' at 22grs of BP. For a brass frame that same half the caliber would be the max load. A .36 brass frame would be 18grs max. You can shot hotter loads, but it can cause premature wear and tear.

I think we all agree that a steel frame .44 well take all the powder you can get in the chamber with out damage. Accuracy goes out the window and you don't burn all the powder so it makes a good 'smoke show' but that's about it.
 
A general rule of thumb, starting load for steel frame is half the caliber size. a .44 would 'start' at 22grs of BP. For a brass frame that same half the caliber would be the max load. A .36 brass frame would be 18grs max. You can shot hotter loads, but it can cause premature wear and tear.

I think we all agree that a steel frame .44 well take all the powder you can get in the chamber with out damage. Accuracy goes out the window and you don't burn all the powder so it makes a good 'smoke show' but that's about it.

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