Cultural Change?

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Public calls to change the gun culture continue, as in this article in today's USA Today.

"Local and national authorities need to find ways to assure Americans that a safe society is one in which well-trained law enforcement is the best answer to controlling crime and assuring safety."
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http://www.usatoday.com/story/opini...s-gun-culture-needs-to-change-column/1965495/ (USA Today)

Like Obama sitting down with Republicans, dialogue seems useless as the two world views seem to have no common thread.

The shortange of ammunition and relaoding supplies ponts to belief among gun owners that the political threat to our access to firearms and related supplies is significant.

Are NRA memberships and petition drives enough?

Is there something that should be done other than waiting for the storm to blow over?
 
A decent approach, and well-written
...right up to the point that he tries to hammer home 'Reconstruction' with total disarmament and a massive police force. (It worked for Great Britain... :rolleyes:)
 
This is nothing more than another media driven article to continue brain washing the masses. I have firearms for reasons that are devout to me. I don't have frantic fears as the Author states, that drives me to own firearms. Thats all these articles are designed to do is create more sheep.
 
Two local gun shops and local Gander mountain are selling guns at a record pace, they have hired more workers to handle the mass buying. People know something is coming and they are preparing for it by arming themselves to protect their families.
I think it is time for congress to put a stop to the things that are being done and get the economy back on track and do something for jobs and employment.
 
"Local and national authorities need to find ways to assure Americans that a safe society is one in which well-trained law enforcement is the best answer to controlling crime and assuring safety."
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??? This is wrong. Let's say that.

Let's mention the court decision that makes it clear the police don't have a responsibility to protect you. They will try, they will sometimes heroically try but you can't hold them responsible if they don't.

Let's follow it up with the 'common sense' statements often repeated here:

"When seconds count, the police are just minutes away."

"I carry a gun because a cop is too heavy."
 
"Local and national authorities need to find ways to assure Americans that a safe society is one in which well-trained law enforcement is the best answer to controlling crime and assuring safety."
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Liberty isn't risk free (i.e., "safe"), but the alternative is unacceptable.
 
^^^^ That ^^^^

The cultural change they seem to require is that we all become convinced that liberty is too dangerous to keep around!

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I don't think we are experiencing a culture change when it comes to firearms.
Guns and hunting are deeply embedded in our culture.
Problem is we have select politicians and their corraborating media's tail wagging the cultural dog.
 
So, the gist of Dallek's article is that we have a right to be free from fear. He asserts that we should paint a prettier face on the government to quell that fear, and then we'll feel safe enough to disarm.

Sure, what could go wrong with that scenario?

(Oddly enough, I read his book on LBJ, and it was quite good. This article is so poorly written that I wonder if it's even the same author.)
 
So, the author's idea to quell fears of citizens who are purchasing guns, is to put more police on the streets with guns?

I'm sure there is logic in there somewhere that I will find once I actually have my political science degree.
 
The "Statist" mentality. Well trained professionals? Where were they when Sarah McKinley's home was invaded?
Meanie that I am, the "cultural change" I would like to see would be a revival of vigilanitsm.
 
I always liked the notion of Peace Officers myself. But then again, I read all the William Johnstone books in the space of a week.

It just boggles the mind how the author thinks that people who buy gun for safety can just turn around and say, "oh, the nice U.S. Federal Police have guns, I don't need mine anymore."
 
Just as soon as Superman moves in next door and Batman across the street, . . . I'll then begin to feel safe enough not to have a gun within something near easy reach.

Meaning no personal disrespect to the LEO forces, . . . they have a tough job, and I'll do all I can to help them, . . . but they are "responders" and not "preventers".

My AR is a preventer, . . . my 1911 is a preventer, . . . if need be, my wife's iron skillet could prevent a few things, . . . but the police in every jurisdiction I have ever lived in, . . . were never numerous enough to make crime a zero.

Until then, . . . uhhh, . . . "from my cold dead hands,................"

May God bless,
Dwight
 
Well, he is right about one thing: changing peoples' minds is essential. He should start right now by changing his own.
 
I wonder if the government has realized how much money its getting from sales taxes, and is going to keep everyone buying guns to get out of financial trouble.
 
Well trained professionals? Where were they when Sarah McKinley's home was invaded?
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I believe the author would fully agree with the view the UK's media outlets took on the Sarah McKinley self defense shooting:
That she was a murderer, and should have gone to prison.

One of the most popular articles in the UK, on the McKinley shooting lead with this headline:
"Teen widow who shot dead home invader ... WON'T face charges!"

Just to be clear - that emphasized "won't" is not an expression of happiness that she was judged to be right. It's an expression of contempt and abhorrence.
 
The author, Dallek, views government as a benevolent force for good. But as a historian, he need look no further than 20th century history, to see what unspeakable evils, governments can do to their own citizens...always for "the greater good."

With recent pronouncements by Obama's Attorney General, Eric Holder, that the president has the legal authority to order drone strikes on American citizens here in the United States; Dallek's pleas for us to love the ever expanding scope and power of our government seem even more absurd.

When our Founding Fathers included the Second Amendment to our Constitution, they knew what they were doing. The threat of tyranny is always a possibility, and a well armed citizenry, is the best safeguard.
 
That article sounds suspiciously like the old (~1995?) clip with Eric Holder in which Holder discusses the (supposed) need to brainwash people about guns, as was done with smoking.
 
The "Gun Culture" in America is changing. There are now more gun owners than ever before, and our numbers continue to increase. Remember the "Harley Craze" of the late '90's? It was "cool" for yuppies to own motorcycles, and not knowing the first thing about them, they HAD to have a Harley.

Well, guns are way cheaper than Harleys, so everyone is now jumping in on the new "cool".

Still doubt me? Remember when S&W came out with the "Lady Smith, I think it was sometime in the '90's. In my opinion it was a flop - just not enough women interested in having a gun back then. Now, do a search for "pink gun" or "girl guns" or "lady gun" and see what you get: http://www.google.com/search?q="pin...RGIa88wTq9oC4AQ&ved=0CDIQsAQ&biw=1280&bih=881
 
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"The "Gun Culture" in America is changing. There are now more gun owners than ever before, and our numbers continue to increase."

I am not trying to be difficult here, but does anyone know how true this is?? Are there drastically more "new" gun owners or are those of us that already have guns simply buying more in what may be one last ditch effort??

I know it has been hashed and re-hashed 100 times but that single mother who shot the intruder, "Ms McKinley was on the phone with two dispatchers - which represented two neighbouring counties - for a total of 21 minutes."
It seems ridiculous that all we need to do is change our mind about guns. If we think happy thoughts, all the problems will magically go away. Before we change the gun culture, I think we need to change the drug culture, change the Bill of Rights culture (get it back to normal), Change our violent music culture... I could go on and on...
 
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