Crosman 1377-Best Pellet For Long Range?
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About the same range as the .22 version. Remember, these are air PISTOLS, not rifles, so 10 yards is perfect, and 20 is LONG range for either caliber. Heavier pellet (appx. 14.3 in .22 caliber), makes a bigger hole. I have a HB22 and it is good for 20 yards and under on small game, with proper shot placement. The .177 may have a slightly higher velocity, resulting in a flatter trajectory, but the .22 pellets, IMHO, hit with much more wallop. If you were only going to plink at cans or feathered game, the .177 pellet pistol with Crosman or RWS pointed pellets would be fine. But for rats, squirrels, etc., the .22 hits harder.
About the same range as the .22 version. Remember, these are air PISTOLS, not rifles, so 10 yards is perfect, and 20 is LONG range for either caliber. Heavier pellet (appx. 14.3 in .22 caliber), makes a bigger hole. I have a HB22 and it is good for 20 yards and under on small game, with proper shot placement. The .177 may have a slightly higher velocity, resulting in a flatter trajectory, but the .22 pellets, IMHO, hit with much more wallop. If you were only going to plink at cans or feathered game, the .177 pellet pistol with Crosman or RWS pointed pellets would be fine. But for rats, squirrels, etc., the .22 hits harder.
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The Crosman Premier pellets have a very good ballistic coefficient--at least as standard airgun pellets go. They tend to be a good choice for longer range shooting.
"Range" is a complicated concept with "projectile flingers".
There's range as in how far can a projectile possibly be made to go before it hits the ground.
There's range as in how far will a projectile go and still have the "oomph" to do something useful.
There's range as in how far away the projectile flinger can be expected to hit a given sized target under ideal conditions.
There's range as in how far away the ammo/shooter/projectile flinger combination can be expected to hit a given sized target under ideal conditions.
A typical airgun shooting typical pellets will have difficulty throwing a pellet past 300-400 yards. Pretty much like a shotgun with birdshot. If you have 400 yards of downrange distance with nothing in that area that can be damaged you can feel pretty safe about shooting in that direction even if you're aiming up in the air.
On the other hand, hitting something at even 100 yards will be a challenge with a typical airgun. The pellet will be dropping like a stone at that distance and even light wind will torment you.
If you're talking about using it for pest control, then the way to determine your range is to gather some information about the pest you will be shooting and then go out and shoot. When you have determined how far away you can consistently hit a target the size of the killzone of the pest you are concerned with from realistic field positions (not just shooting from a rest under ideal conditions) then you know the useful range of you, your ammo and your airgun in the real world.
"Range" is a complicated concept with "projectile flingers".
There's range as in how far can a projectile possibly be made to go before it hits the ground.
There's range as in how far will a projectile go and still have the "oomph" to do something useful.
There's range as in how far away the projectile flinger can be expected to hit a given sized target under ideal conditions.
There's range as in how far away the ammo/shooter/projectile flinger combination can be expected to hit a given sized target under ideal conditions.
A typical airgun shooting typical pellets will have difficulty throwing a pellet past 300-400 yards. Pretty much like a shotgun with birdshot. If you have 400 yards of downrange distance with nothing in that area that can be damaged you can feel pretty safe about shooting in that direction even if you're aiming up in the air.
On the other hand, hitting something at even 100 yards will be a challenge with a typical airgun. The pellet will be dropping like a stone at that distance and even light wind will torment you.
If you're talking about using it for pest control, then the way to determine your range is to gather some information about the pest you will be shooting and then go out and shoot. When you have determined how far away you can consistently hit a target the size of the killzone of the pest you are concerned with from realistic field positions (not just shooting from a rest under ideal conditions) then you know the useful range of you, your ammo and your airgun in the real world.
Narrowed the .177 pellet selection down to the following for the 1377 pistol:
(1) Crosman Premier Super Point SSP 7.9 gr.
(2) Crosman Ultra Mag RN 10.5 gr.
The Ultra Mag is advertised as "long range". I would think a lighter pellet would go further than a heavy one since I can throw a small rock further than a big one. Where am I wrong in my logic?
Unless there is something special in the design of the Ultra Mag. However, it looks like a standard dome design to me.
(1) Crosman Premier Super Point SSP 7.9 gr.
(2) Crosman Ultra Mag RN 10.5 gr.
The Ultra Mag is advertised as "long range". I would think a lighter pellet would go further than a heavy one since I can throw a small rock further than a big one. Where am I wrong in my logic?
Unless there is something special in the design of the Ultra Mag. However, it looks like a standard dome design to me.
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I see that pistol is around $50. Have you looked at any other brands of pistols?
I just got a resolution to an issue I've had with Crosman resolved. I had purchased one of their airsoft guns. The first day after about 2000 shots the mag quite working. 4 replacement mags later, all not working, i packed it all up and sent it back to them. The sent me a replacement rifle....right out of the box the mag doesn't work right. I talked to them again, they are sending me another model, this time a Nightstalker CO2 airgun. I read up on it and the problems it has are posted all over the internet.
Just a warning, read up on that particular model before you buy it....
I see that pistol is around $50. Have you looked at any other brands of pistols?
I just got a resolution to an issue I've had with Crosman resolved. I had purchased one of their airsoft guns. The first day after about 2000 shots the mag quite working. 4 replacement mags later, all not working, i packed it all up and sent it back to them. The sent me a replacement rifle....right out of the box the mag doesn't work right. I talked to them again, they are sending me another model, this time a Nightstalker CO2 airgun. I read up on it and the problems it has are posted all over the internet.
Just a warning, read up on that particular model before you buy it....
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Are you trying to kill things with this pistol? If so follow up shots are gonna be slow.....
Yes lighter will go farther.
The 1377 rates up to 600fps, which is high for an air pistol. So you could go a bit heavier, but IMO 10+gr is probably too heavy.
In my experience, domed pellets are better at longer ranges. They seem to have better stability and conserve more energy than a wadcutter.
I've found the RWS pellets to be very good quality for the price.
The 1377 rates up to 600fps, which is high for an air pistol. So you could go a bit heavier, but IMO 10+gr is probably too heavy.
In my experience, domed pellets are better at longer ranges. They seem to have better stability and conserve more energy than a wadcutter.
I've found the RWS pellets to be very good quality for the price.
Pointed pellets rarely provide accuracy as good as round nose or flat nose pellets.
The Crosman Premier pellets are about the best you can do for long range pellets. If they shoot well in your 1377 it will be hard to beat them.
The 1377 is a decent pistol, I've had one for many years. I would recommend that you get the steel breech upgrade part from Crosman and a better rear sight at the same time.
