Criteria for a CCW ?

Hook686

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On another forum here I read where someone had a baaaaad weeek, the suggestion was that everyone abled body ought be able to carry a firearm. I'm a disabled veteran, and thought this was rather prejudicial to my interests. I currently have a CCW in California. My comment was essenially that I was satisfied with the criteria currently used in California for granting a CCW.

One poster thought anybody with no skeletons in the closet ought be able to carry ... I found this not specific, other than a criteria ought be used ... note: even the original thread starter proposed criteria be used in allowing folks to carry weapons. I was asking what ought be the criteria. Someone thought I was not specific in my stated comfort with the current CCW application in California. I was asked to be more specific and to post the thread in this forum .... Okay, no problem ... all the specifics are available for any state at packing.org. The criteria for the jurisdiction I am in requires: see next post
 
Criteria for CCW ?

Criteria for in my jurisdiction in California:

CCW Applicant Information

California State Law (Penal Code Section 12050) specifies the criteria for issuing a CCW
license. The requirements are as follows:

Residency: An applicant must be a resident of Placer County (refer to Penal Code for 90-
day business exception). Non-residents will be referred to the law enforcement agency
having jurisdiction over their place of residence. Proof of residency in Placer County:
Show two valid forms of proof of residency, such as a California Driver’s License,
current property tax bill with homeowners exemption, or utility bills. A post office box
will not be considered an acceptable address.

Age: Applicant must have attained the age of 21 at the time of application.
Training: The applicant must show current proof of attendance and a successful
completion certificate from a Placer County Sheriff’s Department or D.O.J. approved
Concealed Carry Course containing modules on safety, the law, and the applicant’s
ability to handle a firearm safely. The course will be a minimum of 8 hours as required
by state law.

Good Character: An Applicant will demonstrate a reputation of good moral character,
with respect to his/her ability to responsibly and safely carry a concealed weapon. This
may be established during the investigative interview and letters from reputable
references.

Good Cause: An applicant must establish good cause to support his/her request for a
concealed weapon permit. The mere fact that a permit has been issued in the past does
not, in itself, justify the renewal of a concealed weapons permit. Cause may vary among
the following factors: degree or frequency of exposure to harm, employment,
demographics and victimization or risk to applicant averted by granting a CCW permit.
In making a determination as to reasonable cause, the Sheriff will consider all available
information and, where there exists a sufficient connection between the approval of a
CCW permit and the avoidance of victimization, make that decision most beneficial to
public good and safety. The mere fear of victimization or the desire to carry a firearm is
insufficient. The Sheriff will rely first on objective standards, personal history, training
and professional evaluations of the applicant, and secondly on subjective factors. The
following are examples of criteria that may establish good cause:
· Specific evidence that there has been or is likely to be an attempt by another
to do great bodily harm to the applicant.
· The nature of the business or occupation of the applicant is such that it
subjects the applicant to high personal risk or criminal attack.
· Business or occupation of the applicant requires frequent transportation of
large sums of money or other valuables and alternative protective measures or
security cannot be reasonably employed.
· Business or occupation is of a high-risk nature and requires the applicant’s
presence in a dangerous environment or area.
· The occupation or business of the applicant is such that no means of
protection, security or risk avoidance, other than carrying a concealed firearm,
is practical.
· Personal protection is warranted to mitigate a threat that the applicant is able
to substantiate.
These examples are for reference and are not intended to be all-inclusive.
 
Criteria used in my jurisdiction in California for denying a CCW:

Considerations for Denial: The following are automatic reasons for the non- issuance of
a CCW Permit:

· The Sheriff will not issue CCW permits to any individual falling under Penal
Code Sections 12021, 12021.1 or Welfare and Institution Code Section
8100 W&I
8101 W&I
8103 W&I
871.5 W&I
1001.5W&I
· Conviction of offenses which renders it unlawful to possess a firearm under
Penal Code Section 12021 as follows:
71 PC
76 PC
136.1 PC
136.5 PC
140 PC
171b PC
171c PC
171d PC
186.28 PC
240 PC
241 PC
242 PC
243 PC
244.5 PC
245 PC
245.5 PC
246.3 PC
247 PC
273.5 PC
273.6 PC
417 PC
417.1 PC
417.2 PC
417.6 PC
422 PC
626.9 PC
12020 PC
12023 PC
12024 PC
12034b PC
12034d PC
12040 PC
12072 PC
12100a PC
12320a PC
12590 PC
· Subject of a Restraining Order issued by any Court.
· Conviction of Driving Under the Influence of Drugs/Alcohol within the
past 5 years or has a criminal history such as substance or alcohol abuse
· Conviction of a felony.
· Convicted of 148 PC (resisting or interfering with an officer) or 242 PC
(battery), within 5 years
· Conviction of a drug offense under the Health and Safety Code, within 5
years.
· Applicant does not reside in the County of Placer (see business exception
above).
· Applicant has dishonorable discharge from military service.
· Applicant has history of mental illness.
· Applicant was previously denied a license to carry a concealed weapon.
· Applicant has had a concealed weapon’s permit revoked.
· Applicant has a history of violence or unstable personality.
· Applicant is physically unable to handle or qualify in handling the
weapon.
· Applicant is untruthful in any portion of the application or background
investigation.
· Other cause to question residency, good cause for carrying concealed
weapon, or suitability for carrying a concealed weapon.
 
As I previously stated, I satisfied with the criteria used here. I was looking for other folks opinions .... should there be a criteria, or should everybody be free to carry ? If a criteria is called for, what should its specifics be ?
 
It does sound like a VFW hall not allowing a Legion member in because they are not a veteran of a foreign war. IOWs, if you aren't a convicted felon/rapist/RSO-WHY NOT CCW FOR ALL CITIZENS??
 
I do not know what is proper in CA, but here in VA, I think we would consider it too much to require a special need to allow CCW. VA is a "shall carry" State which means that, unless you have some disqualification, you get a permit.
 
I have a problem with the "Good cause" requirement. Most of the victims I have dealt with wouldn't meet that criteria. Besides it is very subjective and tends to limits permits to those who can show that they are "high risk". Bottom line, if you have a clean record you should be issued the permit.
As for cause for denial, why should a previous denial of a CCW be a factor?
 
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