crisp trigger pull?

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I don't understand what is meant when people refer to a trigger pull as crisp.
what is meant by crisp when referring to trigger pull?
 
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To me, it means it 'breaks' cleanly and evenly. Smooth to the point of release, and when it does 'break' it's sudden and clean.
 
The "Crips" trigger pull, however, involves a 90degree turn either counter-clockwise or clockwise depending on the hand being used.
 
The "Crips" trigger pull, however, involves a 90degree turn either counter-clockwise or clockwise depending on the hand being used.
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Not to mention raising the gun up above your head and saying "giveitup".:) That's actually a shooting grip/stance rather than a trigger pull method.

Crisp means that once the trigger resistance is felt, there's no give to the trigger before the hammer releases. This doesn't apply to the slack (that's normal in some guns) in the trigger that's taken up before the resistance of the trigger is felt.

If the trigger gives after that, it's called creep.

Personally, I've found that a small of creep isn't noticeable during SD practice. Seems like more of an issue during dry fire practice.

Hope that distinguises crisp from crips from creep.:D
 
+1 to what Chris_B said,,,

It's difficult to explain in words,,,
But Chris got it very nicely.

If you ever experience a gun with a crisp trigger,,,
All others pale in comparison.

But to do the Crips trigger you need the proper gear,,,
Gansta Nite Sights to the rescue.

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There's Slack [initial take up before sear engagement]
Creep [distance the trigger must move before the sear releases]
Overtravel [the distance the trigger moves after sear release ]

Slack is not too significant and requires little force. Overtravel is somewhat more significant. Creep is the larger problem.Engagement surfaces can be polished to improve this.Engagement surface can be reduced also.

These items depend on what the shooter prefers and what type of gun and use is planned. Don't play with the trigger unless you are very knowledgeable and skilled .Too many guns have been made dangerous because of amateurs.
 
I have a Hi Power and still have the mag safety connected and don't really plan on altering it.I hear many say the stock trigger pull on a hi power is crisp.I never understood what that meant.If I had to give it an adjective,I would call it gritty
 
I haven't shot a hi power since the old T series from the '60s and a couple of earlier models. None had a trigger pull that I was happy with. Maybe the particular pistols and not the hi power itself ? A custom 1911 by Clark (the old man) or Giles, going back some years, had a clean breaking crisp pull. Some revolvers with action jobs too. Just talking my experience. I've not run into any make or model that was really top notch out of the box but YMMV. :)
 
The way its always been described, is to imagine the feel of a thin glass rod breaking when you put pressure on it. That clean snik of release as the trigger breaks. No mush, crunch, or creeping feeling, just a nice clean break.
 
I was considering a HiPower after shooting one with the mag disconnect removed. Nice crisp sear release with almost no creep.
You would think for the price of some guns, you would get a better trigger.

Most guns like the HiPower were never built to be target guns though. It's a SD\duty gun. The trigger can be worked to giveit that crisp break though.
 
Crisp - like a dry twig snapping.

Don't forget "gritty", the random increase /decrease in force to move the trigger. You don't want that, you want either a nice smooth steady build of force -- then a sudden total release as the gun fires. Or a light even take up as the trigger moves, then a sharp increase in force with little to no motion -- then a sudden total release as the gun fires.

If you can imagine a glass rod about the diameter of a pencil lead behind the trigger blocking it and a light spring holding the trigger forward. Pulling that trigger would give a light smooth pull until the rod is met. The force would increase with very little rear motion until the glass shatters allowing the trigger to move backward a short distance with little force. That would be "crisp".

Many polymer pistols seem to have a slowly increasing force with gritty feel over a long distance until the slow release as the gun fires and the force on the trigger stays about the same. That's "mushy", "gritty" and "indistinct", none of which are wanted. At least IMHO
 
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