Couldn't let this one go unanswered

Apple a Day

New member
I was reading the local paper this morning and ran across the following column. The writer is a self-pronounced "bed-wetting liberal". I couldn't let it go without sending the guy a letter. Here is the link and my reply. Do me a favor and give me a critique. Thanks in advance.
http://www.dailypress.com/news/stories/spencer.htm

My reply:
Subject: TRanslating 'gun nut' to 'bed wetting liberal'

Dear Jim Spencer,
I would like to take a few moments to respond to your column " Linking Rosie to Senate Race is a Big Stretch" and to translate the message from "... that crazy code only gun nuts seem to understand" into terms you might comprehend. I have seen the ad and was in no way confused about Ms. O'Donnell's candidacy for Senate, therefore I suppose I must be, by your definition, a 'gun nut'. If at the end of this primer you still have questions, feel free to email me for further elucidation.
One of the major issues for those of us who own firearms is the feeling that there are gross prejudicial assumptions made about us. 1) Many who do not own a gun assume that those of us who do are unschooled, bigoted, toothless rednecks. 2) Many non-owners assume that there are only a few gun owners in America, all of whom are paranoid, antigovernment survivalists who live in log cabins and wear camouflage underwear. 3) Non-owners believe that if a person owns a gun then he or she is automatically a criminal. O'Donnell's speech is a good example of the third assumption. Although O'Donnell has gun-toting bodyguards to protect her and her adopted child she is fervently anti-gun and calls for all gun owners to be registered the same as a sex offender. This is the sort of treatment which the advertisement you mentioned in your column denounces.
The Australia/Canada connection is that the crime rates in those countries have increased with the tightening of gun restriction. I am sure that none of us would like to see that happen. The reported crime rate in the United States has been consistently higher than in those countries and those numbers have been beaten do death (notice I didn't say SHOT to death) by both sides. The trends of those rates in relation to gun-ownership restrictions are what should be watched rather than the raw numbers.
As for the issues of waiting periods and legalities of carrying concealed weapons in churches or recreation centers, I won't address them. If you cared about the other side of the issues you would have researched them yourself.
Just to abort any of the other prejudicial judgements you may be having about me I would just like to mention that I am a mixed-race male with a bachelor's degree in physics from Va. Tech, a school teacher, I do not have a concealed carry license so I don't carry other that to and from the shooting range on those blue moons that I do some target practice. I am a gun owner but have never committed a felony, heard disembodied voices, attended a Klan rally, beaten my wife, or drunk directly from the milk jug. Well, okay, so I've drunk from the jug but nobody's perfect.
Peace,
Erick Grube

------------------
Those who use arms well cultivate the Way and keep the rules.Thus they can govern in such a way as to prevail over the corrupt- Sun Tzu, The Art of War
 
Cogent, literate and logical; your letter is as pleasing as an elegant geometry proof. Which of course means it'll probably sail clean over Mr. Jim "Logic is Dead" Spencer's pointed melon. Sadly, this guy displays the same high-caliber thought processes as the kangaroo court of zombies that tried to excommunicate Galileo for the mortal sin of making sense.

Did you notice his smug mention of the difference in total homicide rates between Oz, The Great White North and here and how he then indirectly attributed that to the strict gun laws they have? I wonder if he bothered to notice that our homicide rates for not only murders comitted with guns, but also those carried out with knives and bare hands are vastly higher as well.

We'll assume this is because of the Australian and Canadian governments' strict and sensible hand and steak knife control laws. You know; "Assault Hands" with more than five fingers are banned, as are "Saturday Picnic Special" plastic knives that are incidentally known to be favored by terrorists since they're invisible to Airport security.

You just have to hope that folks like this occasionally help thin the herd by forgetting to breath...

------------------
"..but never ever Fear. Fear is for the enemy. Fear and Bullets."
10mm: It's not the size of the Dawg in the fight, it's the size of the fight in the dog!
 
I just got a response:

mr. grube: if the only thing standing between americans, australians and
canadians and violent crime was the ability to own a gun, millions of
people, including me, would be maimed, if not dead by now. enjoy your target
shooting or hunting. it is your right under the law. i just would like to
keep the same track of used guns as we keep of used cars. and if that seems
to you an incontinent, left wing position, we'll just have to agree to
disagree. by the way, my sister-in-law has lived in melbourne australia for
the past two years on a temporary assignment and feels a lot safer than she
ever did in the u.s., even though she and her husband left their pistol in
the states when they moved down under. i guess she lives in a dream world.
jim spencer



------------------
Those who use arms well cultivate the Way and keep the rules.Thus they can govern in such a way as to prevail over the corrupt- Sun Tzu, The Art of War
 
This brings up something that's been bothering me for a while: Is it only a very small percentage of the population that understands the "code"; does anyone in the U.S. but us few hard core fanatics understand or care about what's happening in Canada or Australia or Britain, and how do these facts bode for our stuggle?

------------------
"Anyone feel like saluting the flag which the strutting ATF and FBI gleefully raised over the smoldering crematorium of Waco, back in April of ‘93?" -Vin Suprynowicz
 
Of course millions of people like him would be maimed, IF THE CRIMINALS KNEW FOR SURE THAT HE WAS UNARMED. In the mean time all of these unarmed people are getting a safety dividend because people like us carry guns, and lo and behold we look just like everybody else. Criminals are viscious, but they aren't all stupid.

I really wish that the folks who want to see us all unarmed would really stick to their convictions and put signs up in their front lawns saying that their home is a gun-free zone. In the mean time they all just need to shut the hell up.

Good job Apple.
 
would it be considered unfair hunting practice to post a "firearms free home" sign in the yard and then wait on the couch with a shotgun?
 
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR> and feels a lot safer [/quote]

The "safe feeling" she's having, is probably about the evuivelent(sp) to the "warm fuzzy, closness to god" feeling you get when your brain seeps out a hole in your forhead, split nano-seconds before being clinically dead, because you failed to protect yourself, and trusted that the government would. Sheeple!



------------------
IF you're not willing to die for your rights/beliefs, don't try to take mine.
 
I still can't ever see the real issues of gun control being discussed by the press.

1) Show me one criminal who will obey your gun control laws.

2) Using the "war on drugs" as the example where the drugs represent guns, explain to me in detail how you will prevent criminals from obtaining guns when they are all banned.

3) The real issue is the 2nd Ammendment to the US Constitution, you are skirting the issue. Once and for all the Supreme court must rule wether or not this is an individual right or not. If it is an individual right then either A) Ammend it or B) Repeal ALL gun control legislation as the unconstitutional garbage that it is.

And finally this:

4) Since the government cannot prevent criminals from obtaining weapons, should we not all be armed?



------------------
... But as for me, give me liberty or give me death!
 
Let's see, if we registered gun owners, we would easily know who has guns. If we could find out who DID have guns, then we could find out who DIDN'T have guns. If I was a criminal, I would be all for gun-owner registration. I would just wait until the list was made public on the internet, and then I would rob, , and plunder everybody who was NOT on the list. Yes, that would definitely make everyone safer.

Apple-Bravo to you.
 
Back
Top