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carbiner

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We cut or lost these extremely vital federal government agencies?

African Development Foundation, (I couldn't find the American one)

Office Of Government Ethics:barf:

National Gallery of Art, and what would that be without the: National Endowment of the Arts, or Commission of Fine Arts:confused:

Public Debt Bureau.

Women's Bureau of Labor.

Asian Public Radio

Spanish public Radio

Samolian Public Radio

Now here's the kicker: English Langauge Aquisition Office:rolleyes:

If we really get into trouble we could always fall back on the: Office of Thrift Supervision, or the: Citizens Stamp Advisory Committee.

Tax $$$$$$$ HARD at work.

carbiner

Have you hugged your carbine today:)
 
Asian Public Radio

Spanish public Radio

Samolian Public Radio
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I can find no reference to any of these being funded by tax dollars. A small percentage of NPR's budget comes from Uncle Sam.

Now here's the kicker: English Langauge Aquisition Office
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It does suck when tax dollars are wasted, however.
 
Redworm go to firstgov.gov

Its an index organized in alphabitical order of many of the government offices and such, and yes they are funded with redworms money.

Up here in liberaldreams, MN, we even pay for somolian public TV, nothing aganst somolians, but come on.
 
Redworm go to firstgov.gov

Its an index organized in alphabitical order of many of the government offices and such, and yes they are funded with redworms money.

Up here in liberaldreams, MN, we even pay for somolian public TV, nothing aganst somolians, but come on.
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I did and I still can't find mention of any Asian or Spanish public radio. :p To be honest it wouldn't have surprised me if there was! :eek:

I don't like the fact that tax dollars are being spent this way. Many of these areas could be better handled by private non-profit companies.
 
Back when TPL was alerting Minnesotans to to the fact their tax dollars were paying for gender changes, we were swiftly labeled heartless rightwing nuts:eek:

But the smart folks at the tax payers league prevailed, and people were shocked once the truth came out. DAVID STROM, and his crew are pretty good at finding this stuff.

The most common question is, how do you know? Its very hard to find what we get suckered into paying for, I mean thats the whole point. If they asked us to pay for Billions for so much Tomfoolery, people would simply say no.


Once the gov passes a new ACT, watch out!
 
The Office of Thrift Supervision is not funded by tax dollars. The OTS regulates federal savings and loan companies and gets its money from charging the S&Ls. And, yes, I do want someone keeping any eye on the S&Ls so there is not another melt-down like the one in the mid-1980s or the abuses involved with the Keating Five or Hillary's Madison Guaranty S&L.
 
Back when TPL was alerting Minnesotans to to the fact their tax dollars were paying for gender changes, we were swiftly labeled heartless rightwing nuts

But the smart folks at the tax payers league prevailed, and people were shocked once the truth came out. DAVID STROM, and his crew are pretty good at finding this stuff.

The most common question is, how do you know? Its very hard to find what we get suckered into paying for, I mean thats the whole point. If they asked us to pay for Billions for so much Tomfoolery, people would simply say no.


Once the gov passes a new ACT, watch out!
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Makes me wonder why riders are allowed at all. :confused:

This is one issue you and I will agree on. :D
 
National Gallery of Art, and what would that be without the: National Endowment of the Arts, or Commission of Fine Arts
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The National Gallery of Art is part of the Smithsonian Institute/Museum. It, actually they, are a National Treasure.

The other two are garbage as are the rest on your list, dump 'em. (except for OTS of course)
 
carbiner, as with Redworm, I cannot find any information on the radio stations on the site that you specified. Out of curiousity, have you ever visited the National Gallery of Art?

While we're on the topic of paying for government activities, I pay my taxes like everybody else, and I imagine a good percentage of that money goes to pay for a war into which I feel this country should not have entered in the first place. You won't see me argue we shouldn't have a president, even though I think he's doing a pretty good job of wasting my money at the moment.
 
Leif, while you have a point there is still a significant difference between the two situations. Private companies can do a better, more efficient job with many of these organizations. War should not be open to capitalism or the people who profit from it will do whatever they can to make sure they don't lose their market.
 
Redworm, you raise a valid point, at least in the general sense that government waste in the form of a somewhat bloated bureaucracy does exist, a problem that could be rectified partially by outsourcing some items to private enterprise. The devil lies in the details, though. For example, assuming that as a nation we want to have a National Gallery of Art, to take an example from carbiner's list, how would its management by a non-governmental commercial entity improve its services? How would that manifest itself as a cost-saving measure while simultaneously maintaining its collections and services at the same level of excellence, or better?

I probably shouldn't have introduced the topic of the war into the thread, so my apologies to everybody in advance if it turns into a hijack. If I had to hazard a guess, though, I'd imagine a lot more of everybody's taxes have gone to pay for just the Iraq phase of the current conflict than have been devoted to all of the aforementioned agencies combined during the past few fiscal years. Like I said, I'm just guessing here, but I don't think that's too wild of a speculation on my part.
 
For example, assuming that as a nation we want to have a National Gallery of Art, to take an example from carbiner's list, how would its management by a non-governmental commercial entity improve its services? How would that manifest itself as a cost-saving measure while simultaneously maintaining its collections and services at the same level of excellence, or better?
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That's the tricky part. Putting all this stuff in the hands of private companies makes a dangerous assumption that business owners will remain ethical and we know that's not always the case. The only place to find more corruption than politics is the corporate world.

I don't necessarily think that private control of the NGA will improve its' services dramatically but I do believe it would lead to less waste caused by the bureaucracy involved. Plus it would put art in the hands of people who genuinely care about art as opposed to those who just want a cushy job...though of course that's still a strong possibility regardless of who's in charge.

Another good example is the space program. Personally I believe that the current achievements of NASA have been extremely beneficial not only for our country but for humanity as a whole. In the beginning only large governments had the funds to take that leap but now private companies like Virgin Galactic are on the forefront of a new age in space travel. That being said I realize that many people dislike the space program and see it as a huge waste of money. Is it fair that they have to pay for it? Would if be fair if they didn't? Space exploration has benefited all of humanity; numerous advances in communications, optics, and medicine have come directly from NASA's ventures into orbit.

I probably shouldn't have introduced the topic of the war into the thread, so my apologies to everybody in advance if it turns into a hijack. If I had to hazard a guess, though, I'd imagine a lot more of everybody's taxes have gone to pay for just the Iraq phase of the current conflict than have been devoted to all of the aforementioned agencies combined during the past few fiscal years. Like I said, I'm just guessing here, but I don't think that's too wild of a speculation on my part.
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What bothers me most is that we spend half a trillion dollars not on national defense but international defense. Why do we spend money on military bases in Germany and Japan? To protect them or to keep them from starting more **** in the future? The former is ridiculous because they're capable of doing it themselves and there's no reason you and I should be paying for it. The latter is equally as ridiculous; Germany and Japan have the United States as their major market in a wide variety of industries, most notably the automotive industry.

Why do we have bases there?
 
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