Corbon´s High Velocity 9mm (+P) 115 JHP "HOTTER" than Federal´s 9BPLE (+P+) ?

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Hi everyone, I´ll like to know what you think about this. I´ve been carrying Corbon´s high speed 9mm +p 115 grain as my EDC ammo (note that this is not their DPX bullet). I don´t have any means to test velocity out of them. However I´ve seen several reviews where velocity reach well over the advertised 1350 fps.

So, if Federal´s 9BPLE (advertised as 115 grain +P+) is well known for being a very hot round ranges 1275 - 1300 fps, is it possible to think that Corbon might be loading their cartidges to +P+ ground.

I´m asking this because I´m perfectly OK with +P loads but wouldn´t be so sure of running +P+ on my guns.

Thanks and take care.
 
Some years ago, I managed to squeeze the pressure level of the 9BPLE loading out of a Federal customer service representative. It was not actually above +P, but was so close to the top of the +P range that there would be no way for Federal to guarantee that it was +P under all conditions and in all guns.
 
I used 9BPLE +P+ as duty ammo and it has been my go to carry load for years. Never had any kind of trouble with it. It's plenty hot, has an outstanding record in actual shootings, feeds reliably in everything I've ever shot it through, and is also a very accurate round. I chrono'd a few different 9mm loads that I had on hand a while back and got 1307fps out of the 9BPLE.

There's lots of newer, more "advanced" 9mm ammo out there but none of it has offered enough of an advantage to make it worth changing.
 
I have chronographed CorBon's 9MM 115 +P and Federal, Winchester and some Remington 115 +P+ in pistols, revolvers and carbines. It is not unusual for the CorBon +P to produce velocities equal to, or greater than, major manufacturer's +P+ loads.
BTW, I've used at least a few thousand of rounds of factory 9MM +P+, and/or equivalent handloads, over quite a few years. I have not experienced any durability issues or been able to detect any adverse wear to any of the guns used with this ammo.........ymmv
 
Hey guys and thank you all for sharing your knowledge and experience.
So, in general what I gather from all this is that most of you guys consider safe to shoot Corbon´s high velocity ammunition out of a modern firearm... don´t you?
 
If you're looking for a fast moving bullet in a good weight, check out Underwoods 124gr +P+. They use Gold Dot bonded bullets so there is a better chance of it staying together. I believe they advertise 1300 out of 4inch barrel. I've been using that stuff for a couple years in my 9mm's for some time now and have yet to experience any malfunctions or noticeable wear. Years ago, I carried the same Corbon load as the OP, along with the Federal 9BPLE. However, considering the price and quality, Underwood is tough to beat.

https://www.underwoodammo.com/9mm-luger-p-124-grain-bonded-jacket-hollow-point/
 
if you have ever watch any of the "torture tests" on youtube with various 9mm's, you walk away thinking that no amount of over-pressure is ever going to blow up a 9mm, at least a good one. some guys will fill a case to max using unique or TG and pound a bolt into the end of the muzzle for extreme barrel obstruction, and the chambers never seem to blow. i almost feel that 9mm is limited by it's case capacity and not by the pressure limits of the gun itself. limits in the brass is something else though. i have studied every single 9mm kaboom on the interwebs that i could find, and it always shows to be an out-of-battery, lack of case support or other brass failure, and i have never actually seen a chamber blow. i am sure there;s some out there, but i suspect only on very old or pot-metal guns like jimenez or whatever. if someone can make a better, faster 9mm, and the brass they put it in can hold up to the pressure, i wouldn't be concerned about the firearm itself. but that's just from what i have seen so far, i wouldn't object to new evidence proving me otherwise.
 
Thanks for your fast response.
Shadi, I appreciate your ammo suggestion. Unfortunately, ammunition availability has always been a problem in my country. At this moment, the only alternative of quality 9mm defensive ammunition is Corbon High Velocity, in both 115 and 125 grans. It certainly is expensive...

Skizzums, your statement makes a lot of sense. I know web searching is hard and takes a lot of time. Thanks for sharing your findings.

Let´s see what other folks can come up with.
 
So, in general what I gather from all this is that most of you guys consider safe to shoot Corbon´s high velocity ammunition out of a modern firearm... don´t you?
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I'd ask the manufacturer if it were my gun. That said, if you have a gun that's rated for +P then there's probably not much to worry about.

Pressure wouldn't be my concern, it would be the additional wear caused by the more violent recoil/increased slide velocity/etc.
 
2000fps is worthless when looking at 50gr bullet. but getting extreme velocities from a 115 gr actaully translates into a possibly ballistically better bullet. it's been shown over and over that the hyper-velocity super lightweight bullets , although greusome for flech wounds, won't penetrate deeply enough to make a proper defensive load. BUT.....they are your best bet at poking a hole through soft body armor, which seems to be a growing concern on the forum.
 
Hi everyone, and thanks for your responses. I´m afraid that SD ammunition alternatives are limited here so, I´m sticking with Hornady´s Critical Duty and Corbon´s loads. Just wanted to make sure that these rounds are safe in my CZs.
Now reading reports from several websites like these

http://www.chuckhawks.com/ammo_by_anonymous.htm

http://www.handloads.com/misc/stoppingpower.asp?Caliber=16&Weight=All

and other sources where street track records from OP loads are considered Good SD rounds lean me towards the following line of thinking:

Hydro static shock out of a hand gun might be real and make a big deal of difference when stopping a threat.

Let me know what you think.
Thanks.
 
I chrono'd some 9BPLE out of my Glock 19 and 43 today. Here's what I got-

Glock 19- 5 shot average was 1282 fps. High-1304 fps, low-1268 fps. ES-36, SD-13.

Glock 43- 5 shot average was 1233 fps. High-1248 fps, low- 1218 fps. ES-30, SD-12.

Recoil through both was not bad at all. I've shot plenty of 9BPLE over the years, and found it to be accurate and consistent.
 
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