Cool, GOA is pushing FIJA in their mailings

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I got the mail today, opened a GOA mailing (the one with the postcards for Joe Arpaio) and saw something I almost never see in GOA mailings: a color brochure.
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I open it up and it's a FIREARM specific brochure for FIJA.
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There are states that try to get around this by not requiring a unanimous verdict, if you can believe that. Some require 11/12 and I think one even requires 10/12.

IMHO, the right to nullify is indeed the only thing that will ultimately stand in the way of revolution as ALL our civil rights are chipped away at.

Fortunately, in Florida*, a unanimous verdict is still required. I think Louisiana is one state that does not require unanimity.

* I'll have to check this; it's been a long time since I reviewed the situation.

A word of warning. Judges HATE nullificaton. If you plan to use it, and I most certainly do if it's called for, keep it under your hat while you're anywhere near a courthouse.

When I'm on a jury, there will be, at that moment, no laws against:

- simple possession of ANYTHING or ANY PHOTO that you own. This includes guns, drugs, photographs of any kind, writings of any kind. I.e., the word "contraband" will be, while I'm a juror, deleted from the language.

- any act between or amongst adults when all involved are competent and consent to the act.

- with a few exceptions, any act which came to the attention of the court by a process other than that initiated by an actual victim.
 
I think Federal Juries have to have a unanimoous verdict. There are some states that do not require a unanimous verdict but those are in civil cases and certain criminal cases.

Jury nullification can be reversed if the desicion was found to not be within the scope of the facts of the case or within the scope of the law. So silence is golden if you do that.
 
The FIJA contacted a wide variety of gun organizations across the country, including ours here in New Hampshire, promoting this new brochure. We bought a bundle of them for a mere $200, and handed out a pile of 'em at a recent event.

Glad to hear GOA sent them out too.
 
Jury nullification can be reversed if the desicion was found to not be within the scope of the facts of the case or within the scope of the law. So silence is golden if you do that.

That's why I say I'd keep it under my hat during the trial (that includes not trying to bring any other juror on board to the idea). I guess maybe afterwards as well.

Also, I have heard that if another juror sees that you are stubbornly holding out without apparent reason he can report it to the judge, so you might need a subterfuge during deliberations so that doesn't happen.

Juror nullification is just a way to make SURE that the laws that punish criminals are really the laws that society wants, not just the ones that those in power want.
 
That's why I say I'd keep it under my hat during the trial (that includes not trying to bring any other juror on board to the idea). I guess maybe afterwards as well.


Exactly. I was listening to old "LiveFire" interviews a few days ago at the following link.

http://www.soundwaves2000.com/livefire/index.asp?how=1

Scroll down until you see the interview with Ilo Jones about FIJA. The date of the interview is 05-06-06.

During the interview Ms. Jones mentions a ex-nun who served on a jury & during deliberations she said "I answer to a higher power than the judge", the jury foreman informed the judge & got the woman in a mess of trouble.

The moral of the story is to tell all your friends about jury nullification but remain silent about it during the trial & deliberations. The charges against the ex-nun were eventualy dropped because the DA realized that if they had to try her, they would HAVE to tell the jury about their right to nullify. Listen to the interview. I found it interesting.
 
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OK, I checked it out a little. It appears that very few (but some) states allow a 5/6 verdict and that the federal rules require unanimity.

But that's different from what the SCOTUS will allow to stand. They will allow, apparently, a 9/3 to stand, but a six-man jury must be unanimous.

So in Florida, if you are charged with something truly stupid (in your own opinion) and think that others are likely to think the same, it might be worth taking steps recommended by FIJA, whether you're tried locally or federally.
 
Jury nullification is a time honored method of holding the governments feet to the fire (on a case by case basis). As well, the founders knew that it was the last resort before the populace turned to the ammo box.

Even the 9th circuit, recently got this right. In this case, they admitted that Jury nullification was a legal concept and a reserved power of Juries.

A quick overview of the case can be found here.
 
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