Converting a cap-n-ball to fire cartridges..?

dirty tiger

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Can you convert a cap and ball revolver to fire cartridges?

I have heard kits exist but I can't find them online.

Can it be done?

Is it legal? Is it safe?


Thanx
 
Actually I'm pretty sure the conversion cylinders are rated for smokeless cowboy loads. I wouldn't use full power .45 Colt loadings, though, and definitely not +P and those crazy Ruger-only loads that rival the .44 magnum.
 
Yes

the most popular is with modifing the rememgtion modle with the top strap. The cylinder can be replaced with out breaking the gun appart, IE pull the hammer back, pull the loading handle down remove the cylinder pin and replace the cylinder.
If you want to know how they work, watch the movie with Clent Eastwood called "Pale rider"
To modify a colt bassed gun it VERY expensive. Replace the hamme, the cylinder, then machine the rear part of the receiver to open on side of the cylinder then add a spring loaded (not sure what you call it) door that allows you to load the gun with out removing the cylinder.
After the civil war with cap and ball guns so cheep and when the colt peace maker came out, it was so expensive that many people couldnt afford one at (if memmory serves me) 25$ where cap and ball pistols could be had for a couple of dollars a lot of mods took place.
Again to agree with what others have said, if you decide to do this, I wouldnt even fire cowboy loads through one. Most built are of a softer steel and are made for black powder. The gap between the cylinder and barrel breach is often larger to keep fowlling to a minimum and allow the cylinder to keep turning even after firing many rounds. If you start shooting smokless with the much higher pressure rates and tempature it will start cutting into parts of the gun like the top strap in the rememgtion or the cylinder pin in colts.
I dont know what your reasions for asking the question, but being a C&B collestor (14) there messy, there durty, hard to clean, slow to fire, not that powerful, not that accurate, but for bang for the buck there are few guns to give as much fun.
Go to a cowboy shoot (CAS) and shoot against a bunch of people shooting colt nickle peace makers with a cap and ball black powder gun and see the reaction. You tend to get a crowd following you around.
 
I'll point out, also, that a bottom of the line, no-frills Uberti Cattleman can be had for just about $60 more than the conversion cylinder for the 1858's. The Cattleman (SAA clone) is actually intended to shoot smokeless ammo, and will handle it without a problem as long as you stick to ammo within SAAMI spec. A much better choice than a converted Cap & Ball revolver for shooting cartridge ammunition.
 
There is also the Kirst Konverter.

I can think of three reasons to buy a cartridge conversion.
1. You thought C&B would be a cheap way to get into CAS but don't like the aggravation of maintaining the guns.
2. Your alias is from the period 1866 to 1874 and you want to be historically correct but "modern" in your gear.
3. You are an anarchist who wants an unregistered pistol.
 
As stated above, yes there are conversions available, and some practical reasons for such conversions as Jim Watson pointed out in 1 & 2. As for 3, well I'm not inclined to offer much in that light. But the concept of such a conversion is about the same to me as converting an automatic transmission over to a standard transmission in your truck because you would rather shift on your own. Yes, it can be done, but it's just more practical to buy a different truck with the options you want.
 
Actually, reason no 3 is not hypothetical or a joke.
I have a .36 Navy converted to .38 S&W with the 1970s "Legal Defender" kit which was openly marketed as a means of securing a weapon in a repressive jurisdiction long before SASS was organized. But it is my spare CAS sixgun.
 
Conversions

I converted a Clone Remington (made in Italy) with the replacement of the cylinder. Cost was around 250 bucks,
It shot .45 Long Colt, reloaded as I had boxes and boxes for Cowboy Action Shooting. It performed ok just had very mediocre sights. I swapped it off.

My Neighbor as a Ruger Old Army .44, he ordered a like conversion and also can shoot .45 Long Colt Cartridges without the clean up mess we all have shooting black powder. If single actions suit you have at it.
 
Can you shoot .38 Special in conversions? The 1851 Navy Cyinder I ordered I think says .38 Colt Long. But I've heard you can fire .38 Specials too.
 
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