Converting .40 #&# to 10mm..possible

Carbon_15

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Is it possible to convert a .40 pistol (in particular the P99) to 10mm by lengthening the chamber and installing a stronger recoil spring. What all else would go into such a conversion. What pitfalls and problems would you encounter. The only thing I can see standing in the way would be that the chamber walls arent thick enough. Dont the german proofhouses do chamber pressure testing to the point of spliting the barrel. If I remember reading a test in G&A a few years back that did just that, they said almost all quality, modern handguns are capable of withstanding almost double max loads without serious damage.
I look forward to hearing your feedback,
Jason
 
The only pistols that you can convert from .40 to 10mm are ones that are built on .45 ACP sized frames like a 1911 in .40. Most .40's are built on 9mm sized frames and aren't big enough to support the 10mm. The biggest thing making the conversion impossible is the size of the grip/magazine. They are not big enough to hold the 10mm length wise.

Short answer - No
 
In addition to what Intel6 said, most .40S&W pistols wouldn't be up to the pounding that full-house 10mm rounds would provide. Of course, since they wouldn't fit into any of the magazines anyway, the point is moot...
 
As Intel6 noted, converting a .40 S&W 1911, like a Springfield or Kimber, is not too difficult, and the "conversion" can be set up to work reliably and, apparently, for a reasonable co$t. Pistolsmith Dane Burns offers such a package on Kimber .40s. Mags that feed reliably with both the .40 & 10mm are readily available too.

For non1911 pistols the real problem, IMO, is mags of the correct size for 10mm, even assuming your .40 pistol could be properly sprung & buffered to reduce pounding from much higher slide-velocities against the typically 9mm-sized frame.

The Glock 20 was purpose-built from the ground up to handle long-term abuse from hot Norma-strength 10mm, after which it's counterpart, the G-21 in .45acp, was then created. Most polymer .40s (e.g., P-99) would lack the same designed-in durability for this higher power round.

Still, the idea of a "10mm conversion" makes for interesting speculation, especially if you have a real love for this cartridge.

Not too long ago, I examined an all-steel CZ 75B in .40 S&W (beautiful pistols, btw) with a gunsmith/dealer friend. We took it apart for this very reason, just to see, theoretically, what work would be needed for a "10mm CZ conversion."

We already knew there would be a mag-size issue, but we wanted to look a little further anyway, because the other dimensional considerations appeared correct - other than needing to ream out the barrel, I mean.

On closer inspection, while the .40 CZ 75B is somewhat beefer than its 9mm counterpart, my 'smith bud felt the strength level just wouldn't be there, given the penchant of a 10mm shooter (like me) for the hotter loadings. He felt it could probably sustain abuse successfully from "several thousand" .40/10mm 180gn rounds "loaded to no more than 1000fps" (his prediction). In other words, even if you got by the mag problem, you could only shoot 10mm ammo loaded no hotter than the hottest .40 loads using 180 gn bullets. So, for the co$t involved, why not just stick with the .40?

OTOH, we also looked over a CZ 97B in .45 acp that he had for sale at his shop. While there are too many issues to overcome for a "10mm conversion" on the 97 directly, there's no question that the gun itself is OVERengineered for the 45acp. With a different slide, barrel, breech-face, extractor, springs, etc., the CZ 97 could be set-up to handle the 10mm (again, assuming access to specifically dedicated 10mm mags, like the Tanfaglio Witness uses).

Whether the CZ people could be convinced that there's enough of a market here for a CZ 97B in 10mm to justify the cost of production is a different question. Until then, "conversion" is just a theory.
 
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If you really want more out of your 40, why not try handloading. Take a look at the Longshot data at http://www.hodgdon.com/
I've settled on 1440fps with a 135gr Nosler. This comes very close to matching the ballistics of 10mm, and does so while staying within 40s&w SAAMI specs.
 
With the exception of the few weapons designed around .40, like the USP, why would anyone want to push the loadings of .40 they're shooting in a pistol designed originally for 9mm? Examples:
Beretta 96,
Glock 22, 23, 27
S&W
Sig 226

Some of these guns have only the recoil springs as pressure handling differences from their 9mm counterparts.

If .40 isn't hot enough, you bought the wrong pistol.

If I should ever feel the need for macho power I have a Ruger Blackhawk.
 
No machismo need for more power or fealings of inadiquacy. As a metter of fact I dotn even own a .40 any more. the reason I was wondering about a caliber conversion is that I LOVE my 9mm P99 so much. I also LOVE the 10mm cartridge for its power and diverse usages. As any fan of the 10mm or 41mag, 41 A&E, 356 STW or any other less than popular round can attest...its hell to be a huge fan of a round the gun makers just dont make guns for anymore. I just want a new and interesting 10mm. Wish the gun makers would ablige me, but dont think thats going to happen. The Glock is a great platform for the 10, but gets kinda lonely being my only 10mm...I cant find a Delta Elite or Bren Ten in good shape anywhere, dont really like the S&W 10mm autos, not much of a revolver fan (610), So I guess Im stuck with my Glock and hte possible future purchase of a Witness (also kinda boreing)
So the general consenses is to either hit the powerball and have a custom gun built from the ground up in any caliber I want, or have a Para converted to 10mm. Right?
 
Its possible

Ive heard of guys converting HK pistols in 10mm including a P7M10. I believe the other was a USP. The guy was I believe from Alaska. (10mm is popular up there!)
Where there is a will.....there is a 10mm!:)
 
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