Concealed Handgun Licensee Stops Philadelphia Hospital Shooting

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Bartholomew Roberts

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It's truly a shame that the media glorifies these mass shooters but the heroic go unnoticed.

I bet everyone is glad he didnt comply with the hospital policy. Unfortunately he will probably lose his job when he should be getting a raise.
 
I'm sad for the victim's family but glad, in deference to policy, there was a good guy with a gun to stop the bad guy with a gun.
 
Glockstar..did you read the article? I fail to see any glorification of a mass shooting and here is a copy and paste from the article:
"They acted vigilantly. They acted bravely,"
 
This shooter isn't being glorified because he failed as a mass murderer. Real mass murderers get made into rock-stars (Lanza, Cho, Harris & Kebold, etc), to inspire other crazies to go on a rampage too -- because it's good news copy.
 
DARBY, Pa. Doctor shoots patient.

Just seen it on MSN.com A mental patient kills one of the workers and injures the Doctor. Doctor shoots assailant. The bad guy is in critical condition.

Good for you Doc. You probably saved more lives that day with a gun, then you could of with all the best medicine the world has to offer.

http://news.msn.com/crime-justice/doctor-patient-killed-case-worker-before-gunfight


Problem is hospital says Doctor not authorized to carry. I hope he comes out of this with a "clean bill of health". The Police seem to be on his side.
 
A few years ago I was studying the Columbine shooting and came across a site that was all about how "cute" and "cool" the shooters were. The media usually wants to focus on how "mistreated" and "bullied" the shooters were.
 
I think the media has robbed some of you guys of what you want for grumbling purposes.
I'm watching CNN right now and they specifically referred to the doctor who took down the shooter as a "Hero". In the text article that was cited in the original post, he was credited with likely preventing a more widespread mass murder.
This is the kind of reporting you always complain we don't get. When they actually do provide it to you...you complain anyways.
 
Actually, I don't think I could have asked for better reporting on this:

"Without that firearm, this guy (the patient) could have went out in the hallway and just walked down the offices until he ran out of ammunition," the chief said.
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The old media adage says, "if it bleeds, it leads." Cases in which bloodshed is averted don't generally make the front page. We hear about the five-car pileup on the interstate, but we don't hear about the conscientious drivers who avoid such accidents all day long.
 
In the hospital "Code Of Conduct" link provided by Bartholomew Roberts is this. Section 9 "Health and Safety:.
Employees are prohibited from bringing firearms or explosives of any kind into the workplace.
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Only place firearms are mentioned. What we know so far this seems to be a case of "good guy with a gun stops a bad guy with a gun". So this will probably cost him his job and probably make it harder if not impossible to continue in his line of work.

Policy is not law so with that said are there any state or city laws (at a hospital or medical facility) he broke by having a firearm on him at his place of work? If having a firearm was against the law how can they not charge him and prosecute him for his offence. The other outcome would be he would probably be dead and others maybe killed. We don't know if the patient would have gone on to kill others, that is suggested in the article but without any evidence to back it up.

Because of the outcome and if Philadelphia doesn't charge and prosecute the Dr. with a firearms possession crime (if he committed one) could this be used as a defense by others that the law is not carried out without discrimination?

Be interesting to see how this plays out over the next few days.
 
I think the media has robbed some of you guys of what you want for grumbling purposes.
I'm watching CNN right now and they specifically referred to the doctor who took down the shooter as a "Hero". In the text article that was cited in the original post, he was credited with likely preventing a more widespread mass murder.
This is the kind of reporting you always complain we don't get. When they actually do provide it to you...you complain anyways.
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This is good reporting; I'm not complaining. I was commenting on the type of reporting we get when there's NOT a "good guy with a gun" on the scene to end it quickly.
 
I hope we can follow this case as it develops.

Maybe some of you PA guys can update the rest of us from time to time?
 
I think this is a win, so to speak, for responses to rampages.

Unlike other unsuccessful ones - we have a clear case of one being stopped.

It also indicates how gun bans are useless and only act against the defender.

The gun world should do a full court press to defend this individual who saved the day.

Yes, he violated some rule and was that unethical, etc. One must speak to the greater principle of saving lives. I could come up with the psychiatrists who were butchered by another client - but I would have to search a bit and am busy now.
 
Still no news reports of any charges or actions against the doctor. The [patient], however, is being charged with murder.
 
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The local news stated that the Dr. had a concealed carry permit, and the hospital was looking forward for his return to work. Comments by witnesses and hospital employees are labeling him a hero. Statements by the Phila police indicate he stopped a mass shooting, as the shooter had ammo for a reload. Nice job, doc.
 
My guess the DR will be fired, or let go, however you wish to look at it.

Policy is policy and a violation to this degree is subject to dismissal, regardless of the outcome of the situation.

I have a family member that is, shall we say, upper management in a local Hospital. This DR will not be fired, he will be asked to resign on his own and given a good-great recommendation.
 
Mental illness + a gun met with someone who deals with mentally challenged people who chose to carry; interesting. I don't know enough about this yet to evaluate the shooting. But i suspect that I'll find more answers her than I do in the MSM.
 
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