Composite Thumb Hole Stock for AR-15?

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Jeff Thomas

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I don't have Boston's Gun Bible in front of me, but as I recall, Boston noted that you could install a thumb hole stock on an AR, and thereby be able to put an honest-to-goodness flash hider on a post ban AR. (My memory could certainly be off on this ...) See http://www.jpar15.com/riflespc.htm#thumb

Out of all the silly requirements of the '94 Crime Bill, I've come to feel that the loss of a flash hider is the most egregious. And, it seems to me that giving up a flash hider in favor of a pistol grip may have been a bad choice.

So, here's my question: (1) would we be better off with a high quality flash hider like a Vortex, rather than keeping pistol grips, and (2) if one were to make that decision, then is it legal to install a thumb hole stock and a Vortex flash hider on a post ban AR?

Now, I recognize that I'm not likely to be repelling boarders in the next week or so ( ;) ), but the most critical use of any firearm I own is for self defense. And, since many self defense situations occur after dark, it seems wise to have firearms that are extremely useful after dark ... and don't blind the shooter or make it even easier for an 'enemy' to pinpoint the defender's position because of the lack of a flash hider.

I appreciate your counsel and experience. Regards from AZ
 
It has always been my understanding that the BATF ruled that a thumbhole stock IS considered to be a pistol grip stock therefore you gain nothing by installing one.
 
Yeah, I've heard they pulled a "flip flop" on that as well.



The take on it was either that the pistol grip on the AR15 is a unremovable trait of the rifle even if a thumbhole stock is used or that a thumbhole stock is similar enough in nature to the original pistol grip that they are willing to consider it basically the same thing. By putting a thumbhole stock on the AR15 they still consider that your one "evil feature" that you are permitted and as such you can't put a flash suppressor on the barrel.
 
Not seeing any more comments, I'll say 'thank you', gentlemen. Sorry to hear BATF took such a stand, but I suppose it is hardly surprising, eh?

Regards from AZ
 
also from JPar:
However, BATF has now interpreted the Crime Bill in such a way that it isn't possible to construct an AR-15 type rifle without a
pistol grip regardless of the stock configuration. Because there is no way to eliminate the pistol grip feature, you may
not have a flash suppressor or a muzzle that is "threaded to accept a currently manufactured flash suppressor." A
compensator or recoil reducing device is acceptable as long as it is attached permanently by pinning, welding or high
temperature silver solder or attached with a thread pattern for which there is no flash suppressor made.
Click to expand...

http://www.jpar15.com/customer.htm

what would work would be a barrel with a ring cut around its end
and a muzzel device that has threads on it that expands & wedges on tight.
(Kinda like a gas fitting)
The device cannot reduce flash however.

IMHO the threaded barrel end is part of the design.
With a soldered barrel device how are you going to replace the sight base?

dZ
 
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