I recently read an article in Rolling Stone on gun shows (and the author does not like them). There was a statement by the young woman (who had purchased most of the guns at a show for Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold) that was to the effect, "if there was a background check that I would have had to go through at the gun show, then I would not have bought the guns". While I don't understand her reasoning (she was of age and had no criminal record, nor did she explain how she would choose not to on hearing of a mandatory background check), I am curious as to if she had or could have been charged for making a 'straw man' purchase for minors. I am not sure if it is possible, but she appears to have not been charged for anything in regard to acquiring the guns for the two, and in a political climate that was screaming for vengeance for the deaths and suffering (and it turned out to be the NRA and other such groups). Why was she spared from being charged? I know that the man who had sold the Tec9/AB-10 was in a lot of hot water because it was a handgun and that has an age of possession (and purchase)that both Harris and Klebold were below. Anyone have any info? Thanks
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Columbine related question: What happened to the shooters 'straw buyer'?
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Robyn Anderson was not charged with a crime because she didn't break any laws. Buying a long gun (she bought two shotguns and a rifle) and giving them to someone under 18 was not against the law in Colorado. Because she bought them from a private seller where everyone lived in the same state, federal law did not come into play. On the other hand, Steven Maynes who supplied the one "handgun" used was sent to prison for 6 years because it was against the law to give a handgun to a minor in Colorado.
The structure of the law that allowed Robyn Anderson to stay out of jail (i.e. in-state private sales are not subject to government oversight) is what is being referred to as "The Gunshow Loophole". Anti-gun forces are attacking gunshows now, but make no mistake that their true goal is to require background checks for all private sales (AKA defacto gun registration).
[This message has been edited by pbash (edited May 29, 2000).]
The structure of the law that allowed Robyn Anderson to stay out of jail (i.e. in-state private sales are not subject to government oversight) is what is being referred to as "The Gunshow Loophole". Anti-gun forces are attacking gunshows now, but make no mistake that their true goal is to require background checks for all private sales (AKA defacto gun registration).
[This message has been edited by pbash (edited May 29, 2000).]
Small correction to pbash's post.
Mark Manes is currently serving a 6 year sentance for furnishing a handgun and ammuntion to a minor and firing a sawed off shotgun. Efforts are underway to secure an early release for him, possibly as early as next year. He faced charges that could have put him away for up to 18 years, but pled to lesser charges. FWIW, several news wire services have pointed out Mr. Manes parents are very active members of HCI. It would take no imagination at all to see the connection between an early release, and guest spots at HCI functions.
Robyn Anderson is a cold hearted *itch. May she rot.
Phil Duran, the man that introduced Manes to the 2 killers has not been tried yet. The specific charges are unclear in his case. According to the wire stories, he was present during some of the shooting sessions between the time the 2 purchased the gun from Manes, and the events of April 20th. His case is by far the most interesting. He admitted he arranged the sale between Manes and the 2, took a part payment for the gun, took part in several of the shooting sessions prior to April 20, but remains uncharged.
This story is far from over.
[This message has been edited by RAE (edited May 29, 2000).]
Mark Manes is currently serving a 6 year sentance for furnishing a handgun and ammuntion to a minor and firing a sawed off shotgun. Efforts are underway to secure an early release for him, possibly as early as next year. He faced charges that could have put him away for up to 18 years, but pled to lesser charges. FWIW, several news wire services have pointed out Mr. Manes parents are very active members of HCI. It would take no imagination at all to see the connection between an early release, and guest spots at HCI functions.
Robyn Anderson is a cold hearted *itch. May she rot.
Phil Duran, the man that introduced Manes to the 2 killers has not been tried yet. The specific charges are unclear in his case. According to the wire stories, he was present during some of the shooting sessions between the time the 2 purchased the gun from Manes, and the events of April 20th. His case is by far the most interesting. He admitted he arranged the sale between Manes and the 2, took a part payment for the gun, took part in several of the shooting sessions prior to April 20, but remains uncharged.
This story is far from over.
[This message has been edited by RAE (edited May 29, 2000).]
Glenn E. Meyer
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I think CO passed a law recently such that one could not give guns to a minor if you are not a parent or guardian or without their consent.
I will opine that this is a gun law I support.
The women and men in this case should be given the maximum penalities. In her case, sue her into the ground.
I will opine that this is a gun law I support.
The women and men in this case should be given the maximum penalities. In her case, sue her into the ground.