Colt Mustang Pocketlite...Cocked & Locked??

K

Kentucky Rifle

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Does anyone carry a Mustang "cocked and locked"? (I don't want to shoot myself in the ol' "vertical smile". :)) I know guys who do this without giving a second's thought to the sear or springs.

KR
 
I normally carry mine loaded chamber, hammer down, safety on.

Now, I have no problem with cocked & locked carry - my 1911 is carried that way. But my 1911 is in a high quality IWB or OWB holster.

My Mustang PocketLite is carried in a simple Uncle Mike's pocket holster, usually in a jacket or vest pocket. I've never had the gun fall out of my pocket or the safety swiped off accidently, but I personally don't feel safe carrying C&L in that mode.

If I ever feel the need & acquire a well designed belt holster for this gun, I would have no problem carrying it cocked & locked.
 
Kentucky Rifle,

I carry my Mustang C&L, and I don't see any problem doing that. FWIW, I sent mine to SM&A for their Pocket Carry Package, and one of the things is a slightly stiffer safety detent spring. The safety sweeps off with my thumb just fine, but it would be difficult to knock it off by accident.

Kevinch,

Try as I might, I can't imagine the rational of carrying the Mustang with the hammer down AND the safety engaged! Are you somehow concerned that the gun will accidently cock?:confused: Hopefully, you'll never need it in a hurry, since you'll have to first disengage the safety, then rock back the hammer. You'll waste valuable time doing this drill, and for the life of me, I can't see how the gun was any more safe. FWIW, the Mustang has a drop safety similar to the Series 80 1911...
 
Man! I've simply got to...

..send mine to SM&A! However, it's a difficult, scary thing to do.

(Johnwill: I keep a picture of yours for inspiration. :) )

I just HATE to ship a pistol off to somewhere. ESPECIALLY a pistol that I can't buy any more. It worries me to death!

KR
 
johnwill said:

Hopefully, you'll never need it in a hurry, since you'll have to first disengage the safety, then rock back the hammer.
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Very true, & I guess I can't defend it except to say this: that if I need a gun in a hurry, I'm in trouble anyway because reaching into my pocket & pulling the Mustang (making sure it isn't wearing the Uncle Mike's when I present it) will take longer than swiping the safety & cocking the hammer!
 
I carry mine cocked & locked or with the hammer at the half-cock notch with the safety off. Just depends on the situation.
 
Actually, with the Mustang, there's no reason to carry it on the half cock notch either. Since it has the series 80 firing pin block, carry with the hammer down if you must.

Kevinch,

While all you say is true, can you at least tell me what purpose having the safety on accomplishes?
 
When I carry with the hammer at the half-cock notch, I do so because it can be fully cocked faster than from hammer down. Like I said, it depends on the situation.
 
The half cock is a safety feature only there to prevent the hammer slipping from your grasp while cocking. It is universally advised to not carry any weapon this way. If you drop a half cocked pistol on the hammer, the sear will break and the hammer will have enough travel to accelerate the firing pin. Fully cocked hammers are not in a position to be struck in this manner. You would be much better off trusting the inertial firing pin than the half cock notch. This is how the pistol was designed.
 
Reread my posts and you will see that there is a reason for carrying the gun with the hammer in the half-cock notch. My reasons for this are many and not up for discussion. Where I am and what is going on around me are factors that I consider in my mode and method of carry. I'm not new at this.
 
I'm sure you have your reasons.

I once met a guy who carried an old 3 screw Ruger Blackhawk with all six chambers loaded. This gun hadn't been upgraded with a hammer block safety. So when he fell in the woods, the hammer resting on the primer was struck and the weapon went off. He had a long way to crawl with a .30 hole through his calf and ulna. Horrific scar. I'm sure he had his reasons.

Someone new to weapons reading this forum can get all sorts of ideas from people with lots of experience. But experience doesn't necessarily lend itself to good decision making. This is another one of those things you read here like carrying a P99 cocked and unlocked or loading six in an old single action.

Poor judgement is best kept to oneself.
 
Handy, it's too bad you aren't. It's also too bad you don't follow your own advice.

Poor judgement is best kept to oneself.
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You're speaking out of turn. I never said I was walking around with the gun half-cocked in a pocket. :rolleyes:
 
The method of carry is not the issue. Your weapon will not pass any reasonable drop-test in that mode. The fact that doesn't concern you speaks for itself.
 
johnwill said:

Kevinch,

While all you say is true, can you at least tell me what purpose having the safety on accomplishes?
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The only reason John is that it prevents the hammer from cocking.

Now - before you start laughing too loudly :) in most instances the Mustang is carried as a backup, located within an inside coat pocket or pants pocket - or in a glovebox, or buried deep inside my bike's (locking) saddlebags. Access will be slow - so I simply snick on the safety.

I don't usually carry it in consideration of fast access - if that makes any sense. If I am going out with only a small weapon tucked into a pocket, I'll carry my P-32 which only requires a trigger pull. Although only a .32ACP, I figure that will be my fastest draw & fire. If I'm going to carry IWB or OWB, I'll grab my 3" Kimber - & carry cocked & locked.

So - I guess what I'm saying is that in my personal situation, my Mustang is usually employed to be available in a situation where speed of presentation is not the primary consideration. If it were, & I was using the Mustang, I would carry C&L.

Ok...you can resume laughing! :)
 
For about the last 7 years I have carried mine in my front pocket with one in the chamber, hammer down and safety off. I have just recently started carrying a PONY... hammer is always down on a chambered round.
 
carry modes aside

How does the Mustang Pocketlite compare with other pocket guns, including revolvers? You find it preferable to the Berettas or P32s or J-frames? I ask because I've thought about maybe buying one.
 
johnwill, you are correct. That was my point. Seeing it is safe to carry a PONY this way, I would assume that it was safe carrying my MUSTANG all those years the same way.
 
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