colt 1991 accuracy problem

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george miller

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im not sure whats going on woith my colt. in the past it has been very accurate.lately its hitting low,real low. after cleaning and inspecting it,i noticed the bushing/barrel didnt look "right".there is about a 32nd inch sticking out at the top of the bushing and none at the bottom of the barrel where the bushing slides around it.in other words, it looks like the barrel is setting in the bushing at a downward cant.i tried dissassemblimng and reassembling it numerous times to try and figure out why..is the bushing bad?it acts like its not locking up tightly too.i didnt notice anything strange with the locking slots in the slide or the barrel,without the bushing,it seems to pop in an out ok.incidentaly,havent really shot this gun alot-maybe 1000 rnds.
 
The barrel is supposed to look like that, when locked in battery. That's why the action is decribed as "tilting barrel"; the barrel is tilted down for ejection and feeding, then tilted up into battery for firing. You might have a problem with your gun, but's not because the barrel is tilted. You might need a new bushing, if the fit is loose.
 
thanks

the fit is loose.its very easy to remove.is the bushing something that must be fitted?id like to put in a stainless steel bushing though im not sure my barrel is stainless(does it matter?)does the match bushings make a big difference over the standard ones?im getting a dwyler recoil thing.supposed to force the barrel up into the locking lugs in the slide more positivly than the regular recoil rods.was told that it would greatly improve the accuracy too.im confused about the tilting barrel thing,the barrel looks that way when the slide is forward,locked and ready to go-when the slide is back,and i have the stop engaged,it almost looks straight.
 
The amount of tilt you are seeing in the barrel is normal and required for proper operation. A tightly fitted barrel bushing will probably help accuracy, but it will be of minor benefit if the rear lock up of the barrel is sloppy. The Dwyer Group Gripper will help with rear lock up, but it is not the same as a fitted match grade barrel. The spring in the Group Gripper will also eventually lose its spring tension and accuracy will begin to decline. If you want a really accurate 1911, I highly recommend having a match grade barrel fitted to your gun. Of course, a great barrel needs a great trigger pull and great sights to get the most out of it. Just for grins, what kind of accuracy are you currently getting?
 
just for laughs

ok,at 25 the groups are about 4(or so..lol) inches with fliers here and there but i have to aim high(about 8 inches) to hit the paper.it was embarrassing at the range the day i discovered the problem when i fired all seven and not a one hit the paper and with each try,i looked like i was shooting blanks.with a chuckle as curious onlookers watched..i explained that i was shooting new ammo..invisable rounds that left no holes..went to my uncles farm and fired it again trying to see where it is hitting.i thought it was me but i brought along the beretta 92g elite i just picked up.all 15 were right in the black to point of aim.anyhow,tommorrow im taking it to a smith.whats got me confused is it shot tight groups at the point of aim just months ago for a long time.
 
If accuracy is getting worse, I would suspect either a fouled barrel or the barrel is wearing out. 1000 rounds of 45 ACP is not considered "a lot" unless all 1000 were +P rounds.
 
its ...

took it to a smith.he showed me how these guns work.took mine apart and he pointed out something i had not considered.the barrel link was smoked.and also(this is the part where i eat crow)after i replaced the grip safty to that of a beavertail stainless type(i had to,i had a combat hammer fitted ),i probably wasnt holding the gun the same as i did previously with the colt safty.just had a smoked barrel link.easy fix.im learning.
 
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