(CO) Gun-detector system demonstrated for

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Maybe they ought to mount this on chain-link fences also. ;)

Gun-detector system demonstrated for school district

By Stacy Nick
The Coloradoan

Poudre School District officials put a state-of-art weapon-detection system through its paces Thursday but came away unconvinced the pricey system should be placed in local schools.

The Non-Obtrusive Weapons Detection system, or NOWD, is designed to be built into existing walls, floors or ceilings. The system was demonstrated for PSD officials and local law-enforcement officers at Fort Collins City Hall.

People walking through the system don't even know it's there, said Troy Krenning, law-enforcement program manager for the National Law Enforcement and Corrections Technology Center in Denver.

"Also, this detects guns and only guns - not keys or cell phones or anything else that would hang you up at an airport metal detector," he said.

PSD Securities Director Ellyn Dickmann, Superintendent Don Unger and other officials tried out the system, walking through it with unloaded handguns provided for the test by the Fort Collins police department.

But they said there are no plans to test the system in PSD schools.

Last year, PSD instituted the Links program, which works to take a proactive stance against violence, Dickmann said. The program emphasizes violence prevention education and anger management and utilizes therapists working together with school resource officers, teachers and students.

"That's the approach we should be taking," she said.

In the past, district officials have said they don't want to throw money at the problem of school violence by purchasing
"hardware" such as metal detectors.

George Keller, inventor of the NOWD system, said he hopes to convince the district to give it a one-year trial run in several schools. But the test would cost the district $1 million.

The system costs roughly $7,500 per installation, NOWD representatives said, compared to a metal detector's range of $5,000 to $25,000, not including personnel to run the detector.

But Fort Collins High School has more than 40 outside entrances to the building, said Assistant Superintendent of Elementary Schools Joe Hendrickson.

That, combined with putting detection devices within the school, would be an expensive endeavor.

Keller, a retired professor from the Colorado School of Mines, began working on NOWD seven years ago after a gunman walked into a Chuck E. Cheese restaurant in Aurora and opened fire, killing four people.

The system uses a low-strength magnetic field that can differentiate between the metal in a person's house keys and the metal in a 22-caliber handgun.

"This is definitely technology that the district needs to look at," Dickmann said. "We always want to be up to date on the latest technologies."

One thing that impressed her was the system could be altered to also detect large knives.

The alarm goes off within .2 second of a person walking through with a weapon, NOWD representatives said. It requires no human supervision, as does a traditional metal detector.

When the system is triggered, a hidden camera hooked to a modem takes a picture of the person and sends a message to administrators and school resource officers.

Lincoln Junior High Principal John Olander said NOWD would be an effective deterrent and more inviting than a traditional metal detector but wouldn't be foolproof.

"If someone truly wants to get in with a gun, it will happen," Olander said.

Mayor Ray Martinez, who also attended the demonstration, said the system still could help prevent school tragedies like the Columbine High School massacre in 1999.

That day wasn't the first time the killers brought guns to school, Martinez said. A system like NOWD could have alerted administrators of a potential problem.

The system, which also can be installed in hallways, could have alerted officers to the shooters' specific locations in the building so they could have reacted faster, Keller said.

Several Colorado school districts are looking into the system, including Denver Public Schools, Keller said. The system is being installed in the Los Angeles Sheriff's Department.

© Copyright 2000, the Fort Collins Coloradoan
 
Don't I seem to remember something about a version of the Bren Ten being made mostly of beryllium? Would gang-bangers just start making guns out of " alternative materials"?
crankshaft
paranoia- the sensible approach when they really are out to get you!
 
How can it prevent an active shooter attack?
Unless you have armed guards at each detector, the rampage type suspect will charge past the detector.

True, it might sound an alarm but the person would have a few minutes to open fire on folk.

Passive systems without some active backup are deterrents for smuggled in things for later but won't stop a determined attack.

A kid in a raincoat or with a big gym bag
just runs right through the thing and down the hall. It beeps - so you call the cops.

Even with the new engage the active shooter with first responders - you still can have considerable damage.

Nice that it takes your picture for the news shows. So it sends it to the principal.
So what is that old fart do about it.

There is a basic disconnect from these folks who push metal detectors and cameras as defenses against the suicidal and homocidial intent of the active rampage shooter.

I guess if it beeps and someone runs by, you can sound a red alert so each classroom barricades the door and the VicePrincipal can run out with a yard stick.

Personally, I'd bail out of the first floor windows if I was in a classroom.
 
Takes a picture ... lessee. Walk in with a largish group. Who triggered the detector and how do they know?

Before you think I am merely pointing out that the system can be defeated by someone determined to do so -- which is true but not my point -- let me point out that teens walk everywhere in groups.

The problem with all technological solutions to problems, rather than human solutions, is that they are inflexible and ultimately stupid.

pax


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"Is there anything wrong with a woman preferring the dignity of an armed citizen? I don't like to be coddled and I don't like to be treated like a minor child. So I waive immunity and claim my right -- I go armed." -- Longcourt Phyllis in Beyond This Horizon by Robert Heinlein
 
How about if people just raised their kids right . They wouldn't be these problems . Hey , what are you looking at ? O.K. , so it won't happen . I can dream can't I ?

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TOM
SASS AMERICAN LEGION NRA GOA
 
Reminds me of the scene in "Total Recall" when Arnold Schwartznegger was being chased into a subway entrance that required him to pass behind a screen that seemed to X-Ray or something everyone and sounded an alarm when a weapon was identified. Got him movin' fast.

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NRA LIFE MEMBER
Better to have it and not need it; than need it and not have it
 
What if a kid brings his own tools to shop class - will this system discriminate between , say, an airweight *&* and a set of channel locks? Or if these things are set up at the entrances, what if an accomplice passes stuff through an open window?
 
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