(CO) 2 officers shot by accident

Oatka

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The Denver PD is starting to look like the Keystone Kops. First they have officers pulling guns on each other ( http://thefiringline.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=50692 ) and now this, along with a misleading headline.

2 officers shot by accident
Neither seriously hurt in incidents

By Kevin Vaughan
Denver Rocky Mountain News Staff Writer

Two Denver law enforcement officers accidentally shot themselves Thursday in separate incidents a little more than 10 hours apart.

Neither was seriously hurt, and each was sent home after being treated at Denver Health Medical Center.

The trouble started around 2:30 a.m. when rookie policeman Jessie Espinoza shot himself in the leg.

Espinoza, who has been out of the police academy for less than a year, was not on duty at the time, but officials would not say where the shooting occurred or whether the shot was fired with the officer's department-issued handgun. He was taken to the hospital by ambulance.

Police Chief Gerry Whitman said investigators had collected "lots of evidence and witness statements."

"We're examining all of it," Whitman said.

No decision about whether to discipline Espinoza will be made until investigators finish looking into the incident.

Then, shortly before 11 a.m., veteran sheriff's officer Eugene Martinez shot himself in the foot as he was getting into his car outside the City and County Building.

Martinez, who has been with the sheriff's office since 1978, had attended a Christmas party at the City and County Building and was leaving when he was injured, according to initial reports.

Sheriff's Sgt. Darryle E. Brown said that according to preliminary reports, Martinez was getting into his car and adjusting his gunbelt when he inadvertently fired his gun.

He drove himself to the hospital.

"It's currently under investigation," Brown said. "I'm uncertain what action the department is going to take."

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Finger? You're too much. ;)


I don't have the stat's handy, but I did read recently that a large percentage of LEO firearms injuries are from 'friendly fire'.

Regards from AZ
 
"according to preliminary reports, Martinez was getting into his car and adjusting his gunbelt when he inadvertently fired his gun."

So, he was 'adjusting' his gunbelt. He INADVERTENTLY fired his gun??? Sounds like the guy was playing with his weapon as he was getting into his car and it went boom. At least he wasn't trying to fire his gun. Who knows what would have happened if he had actually tried?
 
These guys never cease to amaze me.

You and I know better, but to many people this simply reinforces the notion that guns are inherently dangerous because they can go off "inadvertently" at any time. After all, who knows more about firearms than a cop, and if this can happen to them, we certainly shouldn't have average citizens, who know much less about firearms than the police, carrying guns.

Some have said here that the average cop tends to be a supporter of the RKBA. Here in Denver, the opposite is the case.

As I've said before, I'm quite curious how this will be resolved. My guess is that first they will get a nice paid vacation, and then nothing will come of it.
 
Well, I personally think Leroy Pyle is a good guy ...

... and, we always need to be careful when getting too critical of someone elses ND / AD. I've been taught that there are two kinds of shooters ... those who have had an ND, and those who will. I remain in the latter category, and I'm doing my best to stay there. ;)

Regards from AZ
 
As I've said before, I'm quite curious how this will be resolved. My guess is that first they will get a nice paid vacation, and then nothing will come of it.

You mean other than the gun shot wounds, the fact that their own idiocy caused the perforation of their own limbs, and the massive amounts of hazing the other officers will give them?

Granted, it's not a jail sentence, but a GSW to the leg and one to the foot has got to rate up there somewhere on the punishment scale.

LawDog
 
I would not criticize these officers to much…. They are carrying their arms with them constantly. Something that most of the public does not do…. SH** does happen… As careful as we try to be… still it only takes a split second of forgetfulness…. Think back on your life…. Have you not at least once done something dumb, even though it was unintentional?
 
Well, we could start a thread about all the dumb things we've done, but it would be OT, and very looooong. My contributions alone would probably put it over 100kb ... ;)

Regards from AZ
 
Generally, I cut the police officers and their departments some generous slack, as they are the front line and put up with a LOT of crap that I wouldn't.

However, in cases where the police environment is generally anti-gun, I have no heartburn in exposing their hypocrisy and double standards that they use.

Denver is a good case in point.

As to provding fodder for the other side, my argument is "You people claim that only the police and military should have guns, yet they are made up of the same fallible humans as we gun owners. What gives them "royalty" status?"
 
Bookie has a point. When I went to firearms instructors school they told us there was two types of "gunslingers", those that have had an accident and those that had it coming in their future.

If these guys were offduty there should be NO department discipline unless they violated a law. If departments want to control everything their officers do offduty, such as accidents, they need to pay them 24 hours a day. I am tired of the mentality they "own" you because they give you a pay check for a forty hour work week. What the department should do is send these guys through some remedial firearms training.
 
The worst part is that this will go into the CDC's statistics on firearms accidents. We'll add to the ranks of injured people those who may never have their firearms taken away, yet their accidents will be used as reason to disarm us. Great thinking.
 
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