CNN POLL - Should there be a new election in Palm Beach County?
NO 55
YES 45 http://www.cnn.com/CNN/Programs/burden.of.proof/
NO 55
YES 45 http://www.cnn.com/CNN/Programs/burden.of.proof/
CNN POLL - Should there be a new election in Palm Beach County?
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Art Eatman
Staff in Memoriam
Anybody besides me ever get fed up with opinion polls? This sort of tripe has all the significance of a poll as to whether we should change sunrise to the west...
Should "pi" equal 3.00000...?
Should we ignore the effects of friction? Of gravity?
Pardon me while I go urp.
, Art
Should "pi" equal 3.00000...?
Should we ignore the effects of friction? Of gravity?
Pardon me while I go urp.
, Art
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Dirty Bertie
Guest
Your cynicism is a little disheartening Art.
The fairest way to conduct an Election in the US, fairest that is until people can learn to count and mark crosses properly, is to make it the best of three. Spread over three months or so, so those with short attention spans don't get too bored.
You know it makes sense !
The fairest way to conduct an Election in the US, fairest that is until people can learn to count and mark crosses properly, is to make it the best of three. Spread over three months or so, so those with short attention spans don't get too bored.
You know it makes sense !
Would that be like a remedial election for people who didn't pass the first time. Like repeating second grade??
If we are going to change the rules, let's have the whole country vote again. With new candidates, since none of these got a majority of the popular vote.
Or we could do what the Constitution says: count the votes (twice if necessary) and accept the results. One person, one vote, one time.
If we are going to change the rules, let's have the whole country vote again. With new candidates, since none of these got a majority of the popular vote.
Or we could do what the Constitution says: count the votes (twice if necessary) and accept the results. One person, one vote, one time.
Jeff Thomas
New member
Even a 're-vote' in the whole dam* country wouldn't be fair. In one county? Please.
This is the kind of egregious behavior that starts revolutions. I trust saner minds will prevail, and I doubt any of them are to be found at CNN.
Regards from AZ
This is the kind of egregious behavior that starts revolutions. I trust saner minds will prevail, and I doubt any of them are to be found at CNN.
Regards from AZ
A re-vote would be illegal.
This from Rush Limbaugh's web site, pertinent portions quoted here in case the link dies:
http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/today/stack_110900.html
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Kopel explains that a similar ballot issue was addressed during the 1974 Republican primary in Florida. In that case, the ballot was the longest in state history, and was called confusing because of the way the candidates were listed. Some of the losing candidates at the bottom of the ballot sued and demanded a new election, but the Second District Court of Appeal unanimously overturned the trial judge
This decision in this case, Nelson v. Robinson, read as follows:
"If a candidate appears on the ballot in such a position that he can be found by the voters upon a responsible study of the ballot, then such voters have been afforded a full, free and open opportunity to make their choice for or against that particular candidate; and the candidate himself has no constitutional right to a particular spot on the ballot which might make the voters' choice easier. His constitutional rights in the matter end when his name is placed on the ballot.
"The Constitution intended that a voter search for the name of the candidate of his choice and to express his choice without regard to others on the ballot. Furthermore, it assumes his ability to read and his intelligence to indicate his choice with the degree of care commensurate with the solemnity of the occasion."
The Court of Appeal also cited a 1970 case in which the Supreme Court ruled that an unfavorable location on the ballot was not a form of unconstitutional discrimination against a candidate. Clearly, these precedents relate directly to complaints about this Palm Beach County ballot - which was designed by a Democrat - and renders complaints about it being confusing pointless.
This from Rush Limbaugh's web site, pertinent portions quoted here in case the link dies:
http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/today/stack_110900.html
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Kopel explains that a similar ballot issue was addressed during the 1974 Republican primary in Florida. In that case, the ballot was the longest in state history, and was called confusing because of the way the candidates were listed. Some of the losing candidates at the bottom of the ballot sued and demanded a new election, but the Second District Court of Appeal unanimously overturned the trial judge
This decision in this case, Nelson v. Robinson, read as follows:
"If a candidate appears on the ballot in such a position that he can be found by the voters upon a responsible study of the ballot, then such voters have been afforded a full, free and open opportunity to make their choice for or against that particular candidate; and the candidate himself has no constitutional right to a particular spot on the ballot which might make the voters' choice easier. His constitutional rights in the matter end when his name is placed on the ballot.
"The Constitution intended that a voter search for the name of the candidate of his choice and to express his choice without regard to others on the ballot. Furthermore, it assumes his ability to read and his intelligence to indicate his choice with the degree of care commensurate with the solemnity of the occasion."
The Court of Appeal also cited a 1970 case in which the Supreme Court ruled that an unfavorable location on the ballot was not a form of unconstitutional discrimination against a candidate. Clearly, these precedents relate directly to complaints about this Palm Beach County ballot - which was designed by a Democrat - and renders complaints about it being confusing pointless.