choosing 9mm carbine

[curly45]

Looking at the hi point 995 and the kel tec sub 2000 . Is there much difference between the old style hi point with the solid stock and the newer one with the skeleton stock? And other than the clip change ability of the Kel tec would gun? Also I already have a Winchester lever action 357 and 2 357 revolvers. Would the 9's be better? Thanks for all help.

 

[MrWesson]

I prefer the kel-tec

Pros
folds to 16"
hi cap mags
compact size
reliable
warranty

Cons
No simple scope options
ugly(both are)
trigger isnt great and would prefer if I could keep it +1
hard to find

The hipoint is reliable as well but the 10rd mags kind of makes me lose interest.

this is a good video comparing them but very long winded
http://youtu.be/CFUAIhL3NCo

 

[Coach Z]

I've been toying around with buying a carbine in this category and after a brief bit of research I really like the keltec option of using glock or beretta mags which I already own a bunch of.

 

[Jim243]

If you must go 9mm go with the CX4 by Beretta.

Jim

 

[C0untZer0]

I don't like the Beretta.

To me, it's clunky and has an odd LOP, and since the stock is not adjustable -you're stuck with the LOP how it is.

 

[savage1r]

If you want a 9mm or .40, go with Kel-Tec, if you want a .45, go wit hi-point. You can get cheap, reliable 15 rnd 1911 mags and easily mod them to fit the hi-point.

 

[chack]

I stopped reading at clip

 

[kozak6]

Is there much difference between the old style hi point with the solid stock and the newer one with the skeleton stock?

The new style locks open after the last round.

And other than the clip change ability of the Kel tec would gun?

The 9mm Hi Points are basically limited to 10 round mags. The Keltec accepts hi cap mags. How much does this mean to you?

Also I already have a Winchester lever action 357 and 2 357 revolvers. Would the 9's be better?

Not necessarily. The 9mm carbines really only offer a higher rate of fire, and the Keltec offers high capacity. The lever carbines offer superior ballistics in .357 mag, and are adequate with .38 special. The revolvers are also entirely adequate for home defense, even with .38 special.

 

[Sparks1957]

The pride and joy of my long arm collection is my Ruger PC9.

I had been lusting after one of these for a long time. I wanted a 9mm carbine since I have a couple of 9s in my handgun collection, and wanted that versatility with the round.

Most 9mm carbines are just effing ugly, I like guns that have esthetic value. I managed to track one down through gunsamerica; the prices keep going up so I figured it was now or never.

Oh, and it accomodates 30-round clips

 

[bigoneslurk]

they make 15 round mags for the hi point now fyi

 

[rjrivero]

The pistol caliber carbine only makes sense if it uses the same magazines as your sidearm. (IMVHO). Magazine compatibility, all other things being "equal" would be my deciding factor.

 

[Skans]

I'd choose an UZI. Nice chunky piece of steel that is way cooler than a HiPoint.

 

[Cornhusker77]

There are some differences between the old Hi Point and the new TS style.
The new ones have a LRBHO, the old ones didn't.
The new ones also seem a lot smoother operating
The Kel Tec is probably the lightest option and very compact.
Have to agree with the Ruger PC9, although they generally cost more than the Hi Points and Kel Tecs.

 

[C0untZer0]

I am waiting to see if Glock comes out with a carbine.

Other than the Marlin and the Ruger, there just isn't one out there that I like.

It doesn't make sense to me to pay $900 for a 9mm with AR15 upper/lower configuration.

I don't get why companies like Thueron and ATI make their carbines look like AR15s.

The Taurus looks cool - but, it's a Taurus.

I've handled the Beretta and think it's clunky, has odd LOP for me, and the sights block out the entire universe exept for what's directly in front of the front sight. Two plastic camel humps for rear sights seem a bit much... Looks goofy too...

I've looked at the Masterpeice Arms carbines, but putting a long barrel and a forestock on a MAC 10 just seems not optimal or something.

If Ruger had just kept making the PC9 they would have sold thousands of them in the last 3 years...

 

[group17]

Both are great carbines in the $2-300 range.
For less money than the Beretta CX4 you can get both. I did.