Gregory Gauvin
New member
I feel really stupid even asking/posting this. This has in some form been asked time and time again. And I'm an experienced competition shooter. But here we go.
I took my Chinese SKS out today for the first time to dial it in and just have a range day...firing Wolf 122gr steel cased ammo. Letting them fling around and not worrying about having to pick up my beloved brass to reload. Advertised vel. I believe 2396ft/sec, give or take. Shouldn't matter too much here everything was done within 100 yards.
So, I know the SKS sights are designed for meters...but, I shoot 100 yards, I figure, 100m equals 109 yards so it shouldn't make too much of a significant difference dialing in a 100 yard zero with the rear sight set to the 100m notch.
I know lots of guys like to zero out for a battle zero, and use the "Combat" notch or "ladder" notch (fully rear) - whatever you'd like to call it, it should be the same as the 300m notch anyhow. I just wanted notch 1 (100m) to shoot 100 yards for me.
So...I decided to walk the rifle out to 100 yards, starting at 50 yards. I put the rear sight at the 100m notch. I was shooting low. Perhaps 6" low - and right. Anyhow...just ordered the front sight tool...because I knew my windage would be off and had brought a brass punch and hammer to find out that even a really good wack wouldn't move it. Well...save that for another day.
I figured to hit 100 yards I need to be probably pretty close at 50yards, so, I cranked the front sight down 1 full turn. Come to find out it bottomed out. Still was shooting low. So, I moved the rear sight to the 200m notch. Now we were doing alright. Gun shoots decent groups.
Moved out to 100 yards. Now my mentality was saying, OK, the front sight is higher than the bore, by, I dunno, 1.5" or whatever it is, so, I should expect to hit a bit low at 50 from POA to get POA/POI at 100yards (thinking ARs here). But then again this russian nonsense...with the rear leaf sitting lower than the front sight...perhaps a 100 yards zero would shoot a nibble high at 50 yards. No matter...I just wanted a 100 yards zero when rear sight was on 100m marking.
Well...bullets are hitting elevation wise at 100y pretty much where I need them to be (minus my windage, until I get the tool)...except, I have to keep the rear leaf at the 200m mark. If I try to zero 100yards on the 100m mark, shoots low...and I have no more adjustment of my front sight.
So two questions - before somebody says to go get a file. If I'm way low at 100 yards on the 100m marking...what kind of system is this? 9yard difference...the whole shebang ain't right. I never plan to shoot 200 yards or past 100 yards with a 7.62x39..., I know all other sight notches wouldn't work for me....just wanted Notch 1 to hit at 100 yards. And makes me wonder why. I'm shooting a 6'oclock hold, not POA/POI. So I'm puzzled. If I even wanted to sight it for a 300m zero, it would have to be low. What's going on.
Question two - Supposing Notch 1 (100m) I had dead on at 100 yards. At 50 yards, would I be hitting low or high?
I most likely am going to attain my 100 yard zero by putting the rear leaf all the way back to the battle sight position (obviously would shoot high at 100y then)...and start to raise my front sight post.
I like to keep all my rifles zeroed at 100yards. Guys who battle sight their rifles at 25m and have a 0-2" bullet rise fall between point blank and 300m...fine. Not my style. My mind says with a rifle sighted at 100yards, if you can't hit a Human Target within that range you suck. And past 100 yards know your hold over. Shouldn't be THAT off to miss a human target unless you're firing a rainbow 45-70.
I took my Chinese SKS out today for the first time to dial it in and just have a range day...firing Wolf 122gr steel cased ammo. Letting them fling around and not worrying about having to pick up my beloved brass to reload. Advertised vel. I believe 2396ft/sec, give or take. Shouldn't matter too much here everything was done within 100 yards.
So, I know the SKS sights are designed for meters...but, I shoot 100 yards, I figure, 100m equals 109 yards so it shouldn't make too much of a significant difference dialing in a 100 yard zero with the rear sight set to the 100m notch.
I know lots of guys like to zero out for a battle zero, and use the "Combat" notch or "ladder" notch (fully rear) - whatever you'd like to call it, it should be the same as the 300m notch anyhow. I just wanted notch 1 (100m) to shoot 100 yards for me.
So...I decided to walk the rifle out to 100 yards, starting at 50 yards. I put the rear sight at the 100m notch. I was shooting low. Perhaps 6" low - and right. Anyhow...just ordered the front sight tool...because I knew my windage would be off and had brought a brass punch and hammer to find out that even a really good wack wouldn't move it. Well...save that for another day.
I figured to hit 100 yards I need to be probably pretty close at 50yards, so, I cranked the front sight down 1 full turn. Come to find out it bottomed out. Still was shooting low. So, I moved the rear sight to the 200m notch. Now we were doing alright. Gun shoots decent groups.
Moved out to 100 yards. Now my mentality was saying, OK, the front sight is higher than the bore, by, I dunno, 1.5" or whatever it is, so, I should expect to hit a bit low at 50 from POA to get POA/POI at 100yards (thinking ARs here). But then again this russian nonsense...with the rear leaf sitting lower than the front sight...perhaps a 100 yards zero would shoot a nibble high at 50 yards. No matter...I just wanted a 100 yards zero when rear sight was on 100m marking.
Well...bullets are hitting elevation wise at 100y pretty much where I need them to be (minus my windage, until I get the tool)...except, I have to keep the rear leaf at the 200m mark. If I try to zero 100yards on the 100m mark, shoots low...and I have no more adjustment of my front sight.
So two questions - before somebody says to go get a file. If I'm way low at 100 yards on the 100m marking...what kind of system is this? 9yard difference...the whole shebang ain't right. I never plan to shoot 200 yards or past 100 yards with a 7.62x39..., I know all other sight notches wouldn't work for me....just wanted Notch 1 to hit at 100 yards. And makes me wonder why. I'm shooting a 6'oclock hold, not POA/POI. So I'm puzzled. If I even wanted to sight it for a 300m zero, it would have to be low. What's going on.
Question two - Supposing Notch 1 (100m) I had dead on at 100 yards. At 50 yards, would I be hitting low or high?
I most likely am going to attain my 100 yard zero by putting the rear leaf all the way back to the battle sight position (obviously would shoot high at 100y then)...and start to raise my front sight post.
I like to keep all my rifles zeroed at 100yards. Guys who battle sight their rifles at 25m and have a 0-2" bullet rise fall between point blank and 300m...fine. Not my style. My mind says with a rifle sighted at 100yards, if you can't hit a Human Target within that range you suck. And past 100 yards know your hold over. Shouldn't be THAT off to miss a human target unless you're firing a rainbow 45-70.