Chinese Police Weapons

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Hard Ball

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During my thre weeks in China I ws in eight different cities. and was able to observe the on the street police officers. Other than in Hongkong which is entirely different story, the police seemed to br orgnized and equipped in the same way in seven major cities.
There is a major police presence on the streets. Many police officers did not carry firearms but were equipped with expndable batons, Other officers carried pistols. In every case the pistol carried was the Chinese 7.63 X 25mm Type 94, a Chinese produced version of the Russian Tokarev.
The pistols were carried in a full flap holster which had provisions for a spare magazine. No other spare ammunition was carried.
I'm sure that Chinese police forcrs have heavier weaponry, but apparently only pistols are routinely carriid "on the street."
 
Hardball glad to see you jumped the bamboo curtain safely.

Not surprised the Chinese Cops only have sidearms/batons for general carry, Tianamen Square must be a powerful reminder to the "people" about opposing the will of the state.

Heard a rumor, that tha PLA were using a locally produced copy of the British SA80 Bullpup assault rifle, see any ?

FWIW: Also heard the Austrian Gov turned down the Chinese application for SDP AUG-Steyr's
 
At least the Chinese cops get guns. In Taiwan, the police are not allow to carry firearms at all.

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Why would anyone copy the SA-80?????

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JoshM75
All rifles I saw in the hands of PLA soldiers were Type 56 Chinese versions of the AK47. One exception was twp sentries guarding the entrance to the National Military Acadamey. They had SKSs.
 
I've seen helmeted police performing an armored car escort mission (4 cops in one PLA type jeep). They carried sidearms and smgs.

Watched some TV there too and they were using smgs. In one "Cops" type documentary show, they were attempted to arrest one bozo who pushed a cop in an attempt to evade. He then tried to leap through a train window (motionless). He didn't have a chance of getting away as others were on the platform just in case. No thumping seen (cameras guys).
 
Hardball: Thanks,

Dangus; Who knows why even the Brits still have it, but if the Chi-coms want to copy it [maybe for it's futuristic looks] I say let em!
 
I think it all depends on what region of China you visit.

I spent a lot of in Northeast region around Harbin and Dalin and there you don't see many police with any guns except around airports. Most armed police around airports were armed with pistols or SKS while those at the runway perimeter were armed with AK type.

On the otherhand, in most large cities and tourist areas a lot of police carry pistols but I was told that most are only for show and were usually without ammo. Some carry realistic looking pistols that were only gas guns.

From what I heard there are actually 3 different "police" force in China. There are the local police who are usually not armed and those who do carry are usually without ammo except officers, army police who are usually armed but usually without amo and internal security who are usually armed and carry ammo.

Like in many other asian countries guns are mostly for show of authority. In countries like Korea most police officers carry holster but they are usually empty.
 
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Dangus:
Why would anyone copy the SA-80?????
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Probably for the same reason the Chicoms copied the M-14, so their infiltrators will be armed with the same weapons as the armed forces in the country they wish to invade.
Taiwan used the M-14. Who in Asia uses the SA-80?
 
My experience was in the late eighties when we crossed the "border" from Hong Kong to China.
We had booked our tour from Hong Kong because we could get smaller tour groups to visit places not always visited by tourists. In our group were about 8 Americans, and about 16 Japanese tourists. We ditched the Japanese toursists after consulting with our tour guides...they were able to bring another bus for the Japanese tourists...being American we were on the go and wanted to see as much as we could and the other tourists were too slow...There was a group of French tourists, but we asked that the same arrangements be made for them...so here we were running around southern China provinces in a little tour bus with 6 other Americans....we hit a small village where we wanted to see how the rural people lived...one of the guys from Boston asked if he could take a picture of the guard who stopped us near the village. The guard was being official....rude and quite bossy.
My wife without thinking (my wife is from Hong Kong) asked the guard in his dialect of Chinese if the tourist could take his picture. The guard immediately dropped the clipboard and put his hand on his handgun, flap off. He spoke in Mandarin to one of the tour guides (the one from China), but the tour guide from Hong Kong immediately and calmly said that my wife was on the list of tourists if the Comrade would kindly look and also check the passports, if he wished.
Turned out that he asked," Why did this Chinese woman speak their language?" As if we were trying to smuggle her out.
He blew a whistle and we were immediately surrounded by 8 other soldiers...all armed with semi-auto rifles with banana clips (China version of AK?)
I leaned over to my wife and said quietly, " I don't know you...okay?"
It was tense for a while, but the demeanor of our Hong Kong tour guide saved our bacon.
I mean I really had that sinking feeling that we weren't "in Kansas anymore, Toto."
Our Boston guy did get his picture, but after we offered a few packs of cigarettes brought along for the occasion.
 
LASur5r:

That reminds me of something that happened to me in China back in 1992 when I visited China for the first time.

I left from Detroit wearing a blazer and everytime I went through a security gate I would set off the metal detector. I was check several times and it would still go off and they could not find anything. Finally the security guard just let me go by.

When I went through a security gate in Bejing to fly to Harbin it happened again and next thing I know I was surrounded by 7 or 8 security guards (they did have holsters on the belt but I didn't see the pistol). My translator talked frantically for few minutes and they seemed to calm down a bit. Again, I was wearing the blazer. They frisked me and checked all my pockets but didn't find anything. After about 5 minutes of waiting an officer came by and talked to several of the guards and my translator. The officer then checked my pockets again and then let me go through. When I got to Harbin I felt something hard on my butt when I sat down in the taxi so I reached into by blazer pocket and dug around and I found a small hole on the corner of the pocket and when I stuck my finger in it I felt a cold hard metal on the bottom corner edge of the blazer. I realized it was a bullet in there so I dug it out and my translator saw it (it was a Federal 9BP). He immediately took it from my hand and and yelled at the taxi driver to stop. He then ran out of the taxi and threw my bullet into a ditch next to the road. During the next 20 minutes I got an earfull from the translator about how he and I could have gone to jail as an criminal.

Since that time I always check my jacket very carefully before traveling to China.
 
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