..don't be misled into thinking China is expanding economically just to make lots of money from America....it is building itself mililtarily in a very big way..and will soon have the industrial might to convert factories to produce for it's military should war proceed against the USA(remember one of the reasons we did so well in WW2 was our industrial might)..it is a commuist government using liberalized economics to quickly gain a very large industry..and the dumb sellout companies who think China won't say one day..thanks for the factories you moved over here..now get out as we just took control of them...you think our government is going to do much to protest with it's back being stalked by Middle Eastern countries and probably Russia also involved in the mix....
China: another threat to the USA...........
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Mike Irwin
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So, your point is...
what, exactly?
That we should wipe those pesky Chinamen off the face of the map?
What about those pesky Indians?
what, exactly?
That we should wipe those pesky Chinamen off the face of the map?
What about those pesky Indians?
Slugthrower
New member
I would say that the point is... in order to be an independent country you must have a industrial base not a paper tracking network. We are building factories in other countries to counteract punishing regulations that our government has placed upon the business owners, in so doing we are becoming interdependent. Our dependence upon foreign oil is causing us to no longer be able to sustain ourselves. We keep out sourcing ourselves. We may one day find ourselves as a highly educated country that is physically unable to stand on our own feet. The military is currently buying ammo from other countries, as we don't produce enough domestically. As a country we need to have brains and brawn. Brains alone or brawn is doomed to failure.
Years ago when I was in the service we were debriefed on China. We were told that they want to have a Blue Navy, a navy able to control their sphere of influence. We are financing them indirectly by moving jobs over there. We currently send most of our scrap metal to them, as it is cheaper for us to have them recycle it and produce products. Is it possible that they syphon off some to build up their armed services? Before WWII we were sending Germany scrap metal to help rebuild their country. Their government used a lot of that metal to build panzer's... That Blue Navy was supposed to be ready by 2015, looks like it will be as well. I don't think they want to invade us. They will be able to tell us to stay out of Asian affairs with great authority
The US is a weakening "Super Power". China is modernizing at a incredible rate. It is easy to underestimate a potential opponent. We could find ourselves in another cold war that we can't sustain. We out produced the Soviet Union and won. China may very well out produce us and we end up like the Russians. Once again, we will get what we deserve if we fail to understand that the world would love to see us fall flat on our faces.
We are the big boy on the block that many envy and want to see knocked down a couple of notches.
China said that they want and will be the "Middle Empire". A power that all countries must come to, or work through. We as a country are enabling this through our desire for cheap goods. The cost may be higher than many wish to believe.
We are well entertained by the fiddle playing. Don't worry it is ok , the barbarians will never arrive at the capitol or even get through the gates.
Freedom is free, sleep... as all is well...
What happened, how could this have happened, why did this happen? I wonder... :barf:
Years ago when I was in the service we were debriefed on China. We were told that they want to have a Blue Navy, a navy able to control their sphere of influence. We are financing them indirectly by moving jobs over there. We currently send most of our scrap metal to them, as it is cheaper for us to have them recycle it and produce products. Is it possible that they syphon off some to build up their armed services? Before WWII we were sending Germany scrap metal to help rebuild their country. Their government used a lot of that metal to build panzer's... That Blue Navy was supposed to be ready by 2015, looks like it will be as well. I don't think they want to invade us. They will be able to tell us to stay out of Asian affairs with great authority
The US is a weakening "Super Power". China is modernizing at a incredible rate. It is easy to underestimate a potential opponent. We could find ourselves in another cold war that we can't sustain. We out produced the Soviet Union and won. China may very well out produce us and we end up like the Russians. Once again, we will get what we deserve if we fail to understand that the world would love to see us fall flat on our faces.
We are the big boy on the block that many envy and want to see knocked down a couple of notches.
China said that they want and will be the "Middle Empire". A power that all countries must come to, or work through. We as a country are enabling this through our desire for cheap goods. The cost may be higher than many wish to believe.
We are well entertained by the fiddle playing. Don't worry it is ok , the barbarians will never arrive at the capitol or even get through the gates.
Freedom is free, sleep... as all is well...
What happened, how could this have happened, why did this happen? I wonder... :barf:
Aspen:
Did you know that just over the past 11 quarters, dating back to the June 2003 Bush tax cuts, America has increased the size of its entire economy by 20 percent? In less than three years, the U.S. economic pie has expanded by $2.2 trillion, an output add-on that is roughly the same size as the total Chinese economy, and much larger than the total economic size of nations like India, Mexico, Ireland, and Belgium.
I am so not worried.
Kowboy
Did you know that just over the past 11 quarters, dating back to the June 2003 Bush tax cuts, America has increased the size of its entire economy by 20 percent? In less than three years, the U.S. economic pie has expanded by $2.2 trillion, an output add-on that is roughly the same size as the total Chinese economy, and much larger than the total economic size of nations like India, Mexico, Ireland, and Belgium.
I am so not worried.
Kowboy
DonR101395
New member
China has also just signed a nuclear technology agreement with Pakistan.
Glenn E. Meyer
New member
WalMarts are really hidden but giant Transformers that on signal will convert into giant robots that will conquer us. All those goods from China carry the nanobots that will do the conversion.
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The mass offshore production will inevitably bring China, India etc to the point of power, sooner or later. I am not sure they will send troops to conquer Nebraska, but they definetly will demand (and get) the proportional part of global influence. To be strong, country should produce things, not only patents, services and laws.
old 12 gauge
Moderator
all the countries above have the bomb, but we are still the only ones that can deliver it, about the last thing in our favor unless we start electing some high school drop outs with just plain old common sense to public office, we've all seen what highly educated blue bloods can do to the planet and it's not turning out so great, their greed and power hungry groups are dragging us all down.JMO to bad Ross Perot is not young enough to give it another shot.
oh yeah, back woods high school drop outs with no understanding of economics, history, science, mathematics, law, business and foreign affairs would do such a better job...
One of the biggest problems among our politicians and in our country in general is a lack of proper education, including higher education.
One of the biggest problems among our politicians and in our country in general is a lack of proper education, including higher education.
old 12 gauge
Moderator
One of the biggest problems among our politicians and in our country in general is a lack of proper education, including higher education.
come on, everyone in office is a lawyer with 4-6 yrs in college, too much ed, and not a lick of common sense.
old 12 gauge
Moderator
Petre & Redworm
I knew that people with common sense would know what i meant. The world is so small now that we need people that can get along with everyone without selling us out but leave enough for the other guy so he can feed himself.
Stop telling us and the rest of the world what is best for us, give us a little credit. When the first thing a polition does when he gets in office is vote himself a raise and lifetime medical for him and family while millions of Americans have no medical and their job has left the country, or if they have been accused of doing something shady, they should lose their rights just like a reg citizen, instead they lie up to the last minute, resign with their pension, bennies, and go home to a good life.
I knew that people with common sense would know what i meant. The world is so small now that we need people that can get along with everyone without selling us out but leave enough for the other guy so he can feed himself.
Stop telling us and the rest of the world what is best for us, give us a little credit. When the first thing a polition does when he gets in office is vote himself a raise and lifetime medical for him and family while millions of Americans have no medical and their job has left the country, or if they have been accused of doing something shady, they should lose their rights just like a reg citizen, instead they lie up to the last minute, resign with their pension, bennies, and go home to a good life.
To Redworm...
It's more like social and corporate ass-scratching that's the problem, more than education. These fools in power KNOW what's right and wrong yet they persist in doing things wrong because that's what their lobbying constituents want. Face it, we're more of a nation run by corporations and beaureacrats than by real people. Not only that but the other fault lies in the people being blinded by "liberal" news media. It's always Republican and Democrat, forget the third party. Hey what happened to freedom of choice? No I don't want EITHER of these two idiots winning. Let's not forget that TV is now all that matters, and that as long as people get to watch American Idol, CSI, and all that other garbage who cares who's in power right? Who cares about the Constitution? If people fail to exercise their rights, then expect the darkest of days for America.
Epyon
It's more like social and corporate ass-scratching that's the problem, more than education. These fools in power KNOW what's right and wrong yet they persist in doing things wrong because that's what their lobbying constituents want. Face it, we're more of a nation run by corporations and beaureacrats than by real people. Not only that but the other fault lies in the people being blinded by "liberal" news media. It's always Republican and Democrat, forget the third party. Hey what happened to freedom of choice? No I don't want EITHER of these two idiots winning. Let's not forget that TV is now all that matters, and that as long as people get to watch American Idol, CSI, and all that other garbage who cares who's in power right? Who cares about the Constitution? If people fail to exercise their rights, then expect the darkest of days for America.
Epyon
Wildalaska
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I like Chinese food, I think Asian women are gorgeous and I can eat with chopsticks. China will do what it does.
WildsowhatAlaska
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