ChiCom M14 clone

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Cain R

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With our new gun laws, M1 rifles made in China are OK, but M1 rifles made in the US are "restricted" and very expensive, over $2000.00 US. So, with the price of a Chicom M1 at about $500.00US, my options are limited. FN FAL's, most H&K's all AK's etc are prohibited. Does anyone have any experience with the Chinese clone. It didn't look too bad, like an SKS made to look like a M14. At $795.00 Cdn its a bargin compared to $2500.00 Cdn for a AR clone that is legal. Any thoughts? Moving isn't an option though.
 
I know 2 guys that own the chi-com M14 and are very pleased with them. Both shoot them on a regular basis. There are 'rumors' that the chi-coms have soft receivers and will not stand up to alot of shooting. I do not know if this is true but you may want to look into it prior to spending $700+.
 
First of all, where are you, California? That's my guess.

Secondly, are you talking about an M1 or an M14? Your post isn't easy to follow.

I THINK you're talking about Chicom M14s. If so, thay certainly don't look like an SKS made to look like an M14...they look like M14s. Try the search function and look for Polytech and Norinco M14 threads. They can be very good rifles, ith just a few alterations.

FireForged has the rumor wrong. The receivers are typically quite strong, but the bolts are soft.
 
Yup in Kanada. Sorry should have said M14. When I mentioned them looking like an SKS I meant same colour wood, same crude machine marks, crude/corse sights, horrible trigger pull, and a level of fit and finnish applicable to the Type 21 ChiCom SKS. About 15 years ago I had a wonderful H&R M14 that came out of Lebannon, brown composite stock, TRW bolt etc. It still had the cut out for the selective fire switch in the stock, in a fit of stupidity I sold it. Compared to that old rifle, these Chicom units are positively crude.
 
Ah! CDN, you're right! I should have caught that.

Yes, the machining (if it can be called that) on the Chicoms IS crude,but according to Fulton, and quite a few HP friends who own them them, the receivers are good and strong.

All the USGI parts should interchange with very little fitting, so you can get a good two stage trigger without too much trouble.
 
Well no one else mentioned it, so I guess I'll have to bring up the moral issue of buying a product made in a Communist country. I dunno about anyone else, but I think that's a plenty good reason not to buy it.

What are the rules about imported Springfield Armory M1A's? They're not that expensive. Oh wait... restricted and very expensive.... huh. Why would the American M1A's be expensive and restricted and not the Chinse made equivalents? That makes less sense than most gun laws. They're the same darned thing, functionally except for country of manufacture. Course we have a similar law about small guns, but that loophole allows US made ones, and not foreign made ones, which sorta kinda not really makes sense. You sure your politico's aren't Communist sympathizers?

-Morgan
 
Remember, our "great leaders" are all '60's utopian socialists, so no, none of our gun laws make sense. Example, FN FAL 10 years ago ok to own, then became "restricted" (like a handgun, registered, can only shoot them at a approved range, etc.) Now they are "prohibited", can only buy one if you owned one before the ban became law. I think like your class III full auto licences. Now here's a kicker. AR clone made in 2000, prohibited. AR clone with a different designation manufactured in 2001 OK, treated like a rifle. But, the price is close to $2600 CDN. And with the new laws, shotguns with 10 rd AK style mags, pistol grips, night sights and 16" barrles OK, treated like a regular rifle and AR clones with 12" barrels OK, treated like a handgun. If your confused, so are the rest of us up here. Right, the nice Springfield M1A, close to $3000.00 CDN.
 
Polytech M14 -- good rifle, especially for the money. Around here, they actually have a better reputation for accuracy than the Springfields, oddly enough.

Yes, the bolts are supposedly soft, but my smith gave mine an A-OK, and it never gave me any problem. Headspace is a little on the sloppy side though.

I HAVE heard the metalurgy of the Polytech recievers is top-notch, similar to USGI. Norinco not quite so good, and again, the bolts in both are questionable. Also, Polytech recievers are forged as per original USGI specs, not cast, which may or may not be a concern to you.

You will of course want to ditch some of the cruder pieces as your time and budget allow.. stock is a great example. USGI parts will usually fit no problem (only exception I'm aware of is a couple screw threadings in metric instead of inch on the barrel -- gas block, I think). One warning about the stock.. a USGI stock with open space for the selectors may allow the pin that retains the oprod spring in the receiver to walk loose, which ends up with your oprod banging your mag. Bad juju that.. easy solution I was given on here, fill the selector inletting with JB weld, sand and paint. Works like a charm.

Basically -- if you go the Polytech route, you're buying more of a "fixer-upper" rifle.. but it'll work every bit as well as the big names.

-K
 
Hey Cain!!!

Tack here, I'm in Ontario. Am a CFSC/CRFSC Instructor, I need your source on the changing regs. you quoted above!! Effects me personally!!:eek:

Please drop me line, This "after date" thing sounds interesting. I have 12(3), 12(5)& 12(6) guns.

Thanks, Tack
 
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