Cheney: "Moron, idiot, Nefarious Bastard"
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Go, should we post every scandal of the democratic party here and then post every thing that has been said on each side.
This is getting rather tiring, both parties are scum, all pols are scum, it doesn't matter what side they are on.
In a way, I would take this as trolling, because you are wishing for some type of fight.
We're tired of it, all pols are scum, this I hope that we can agree upon.
Let it go, your side lost, quit whining and try to get your base to get active in '06 and '08.
Instead of trying to "one over" the other, why don't we just work together to get this country back on the path it was meant to be.
Other than that, I have a feeling that not too many are really giving you the time of day anylonger. If you want to get your "I'm right and everyone else is wrong" fix, go to the democrat underground.
Geez, instead of being yes men of whatever party, why don't we work together to get our Rights back and quite trying this pettiness. You sound like bob beckel (sp), just talking points and nothing to really help in the matters that face us at this time.
Wayne
*Not an attack against Go, just tired of all the petty BS on both sides. We can argue all we wish but it still doesn't change a damn thing.
This is getting rather tiring, both parties are scum, all pols are scum, it doesn't matter what side they are on.
In a way, I would take this as trolling, because you are wishing for some type of fight.
We're tired of it, all pols are scum, this I hope that we can agree upon.
Let it go, your side lost, quit whining and try to get your base to get active in '06 and '08.
Instead of trying to "one over" the other, why don't we just work together to get this country back on the path it was meant to be.
Other than that, I have a feeling that not too many are really giving you the time of day anylonger. If you want to get your "I'm right and everyone else is wrong" fix, go to the democrat underground.
Geez, instead of being yes men of whatever party, why don't we work together to get our Rights back and quite trying this pettiness. You sound like bob beckel (sp), just talking points and nothing to really help in the matters that face us at this time.
Wayne
*Not an attack against Go, just tired of all the petty BS on both sides. We can argue all we wish but it still doesn't change a damn thing.
Harley Quinn
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Yes I second that , but it is a forum, so
I am suprised that this is what is being said of the 'VP', true but it takes cajones to hang yourself out like that. Must not realize the power that man has... Awesome comes to mind.
Long live the freedom of speech, article #1.
I figure the VP will run for President. So who will be his running mate?
Harley
I am suprised that this is what is being said of the 'VP', true but it takes cajones to hang yourself out like that. Must not realize the power that man has... Awesome comes to mind.
Long live the freedom of speech, article #1.
I figure the VP will run for President. So who will be his running mate?
Harley
BerettaCougar
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Wayne always seems to word things perfectly.
All of this...us VS them crap is stupid...
We are a society of gun owners, fighting for the same cause, yet fighting ourselves at the same time, doesnt make sense...
All of this...us VS them crap is stupid...
We are a society of gun owners, fighting for the same cause, yet fighting ourselves at the same time, doesnt make sense...
USP,
I would think you'd see by now that I agree with that.
AFA the rest of it, you have no idea what "my side" is. I am merely doing my part to wake people up on *both sides* and get them interested in what's going on. Unfortunately, I can't do that while they are in denial about all the crap they've been spoon-fed by their masters in Washington.
I can see why you'd think I was pro-Dem because you never get to see me in action against them. I save that for boards that are more blindly partisan lefties.
I encounter mostly partisan righties on this board, so that's who's cages I rattle around here.
The point is just as you said: working together to get our country back on the right path.
So to that end, let's talk about the topic at hand: The fact that this administration is under the gun and it's not all just some plot by the liberals, but people who are supposed to be on their side. People from within their own administration. Can we talk about this, or are you all too defensive about it?
I would think you'd see by now that I agree with that.
AFA the rest of it, you have no idea what "my side" is. I am merely doing my part to wake people up on *both sides* and get them interested in what's going on. Unfortunately, I can't do that while they are in denial about all the crap they've been spoon-fed by their masters in Washington.
I can see why you'd think I was pro-Dem because you never get to see me in action against them. I save that for boards that are more blindly partisan lefties.
I encounter mostly partisan righties on this board, so that's who's cages I rattle around here.
The point is just as you said: working together to get our country back on the right path.
So to that end, let's talk about the topic at hand: The fact that this administration is under the gun and it's not all just some plot by the liberals, but people who are supposed to be on their side. People from within their own administration. Can we talk about this, or are you all too defensive about it?
So, he pulled a Souter, big deal. He wouldn't be the first to "grow" in Washington and stab his bosses in the back, he'll be the toast of the cocktail circuit. That is, until someone else becomes the toast of the town, and he is forgotten. Just like Cindy Sheehan has been used and forgotten.
Meet COL (Ret) Wilkerson
Colonel, U.S. Army (Retired) Larry Wilkerson joined General Colin L. Powell in March 1989 at the U.S. Army’s Forces Command in Atlanta, Georgia as his Deputy Executive Officer. He followed the General to his next position as Chairman of the U.S. Joint Chiefs of Staff, serving as his special assistant. Upon Powell's retirement from active service in 1993, Colonel Wilkerson served as the Deputy Director and Director of the U.S. Marine Corps War College at Quantico, Virginia. Upon Wilkerson’s retirement from active service in 1997, he began working for General Powell in a private capacity as a consultant and advisor.
In December 2000, Secretary of State-designate Powell asked Wilkerson to join him in the Transition Office at the U.S. State Department and, later, upon his confirmation as Secretary of State, Secretary Powell moved Wilkerson to his Policy Planning Staff with responsibilities for East Asia and the Pacific, and legislative and political-military affairs. In June of 2002, the Director for Policy Planning, Ambassador Richard Haass, made Wilkerson the associate director. In August of 2002, Secretary Powell moved Wilkerson to the position of Chief of Staff of the Department.
Wilkerson is a veteran of the Vietnam war as well as a U.S. Army “Pacific hand,” having served in Korea, Japan, and Hawaii and participated in military exercises throughout the Pacific. Moreover, Wilkerson was Executive Assistant to US Navy Admiral Stewart A. Ring, Director for Strategy and Policy (J5) USCINCPAC, from 1984-87. Wilkerson also served on the faculty of the U.S. Naval War College at Newport, RI and holds two advanced degrees, one in International Relations and the other in National Security Studies. He has written extensively on military and national security affairs–especially for college-level curricula--and been published in a number of professional journals, including the Naval Institute’s Proceedings, The Naval War College Review, Military Review, and Joint Force Quarterly (JFQ).
I dont think he has to worry about being anybody's toast of the town.
I'm with USP. I can also catagorically state that I am not fed anything by my "Masters" anywhere.
Perhaps not using arrogant and insulting terms might open a better avenue of dialog. One that doesn't require back-tracking to say what is actually meant. The idea presented by GoSlash is that others, except him, of course, are under the control of those in D.C., their "Masters". I find this type of trollish behavior to be insulting, short-sighted, and certainly not a manner in which to expect civil discourse.
I'd suggest your reviewing the actual post for content. Nobody else can read anything into it beyond what is actually there.
It would also seem that the quote described is pretty infantile, despite the credentials of the person whining it. If this is the uuterings of a suposedly professional soldier, than I would recommend Bethesda Naval Hospital, and a testing regimen for Altzheimers Disease.
Perhaps not using arrogant and insulting terms might open a better avenue of dialog. One that doesn't require back-tracking to say what is actually meant. The idea presented by GoSlash is that others, except him, of course, are under the control of those in D.C., their "Masters". I find this type of trollish behavior to be insulting, short-sighted, and certainly not a manner in which to expect civil discourse.
I'd suggest your reviewing the actual post for content. Nobody else can read anything into it beyond what is actually there.
It would also seem that the quote described is pretty infantile, despite the credentials of the person whining it. If this is the uuterings of a suposedly professional soldier, than I would recommend Bethesda Naval Hospital, and a testing regimen for Altzheimers Disease.
Yup dementia is a heck of a thing.....
"Cheney's office, Rumsfeld aides and others argued "that the president of the United States is all-powerful, that as commander in chief the president of the United States can do anything he damn well pleases".
I agree on the involuntary commitment
You're closer to Brooks, sir. If you're retired military, try there. It's better known for it's burn treatments, but I'd guess that a fried brain would qualify.
Insults aside, do either you or GoSlash ever have anything positive to contribute to a thread?
As for your comments about the power of the presidency. I'll have to assume that, since you dislike Bush/Cheney so much, you'd rather have had Kerry? Should you think that the current administration is poor, I'd shudder to think of the chaos that 9/11 would have thrown the Kerry, or Clinton, or Gore administration into. We'd probably have ended up offering the families of the terrorists reparations.
Insults aside, do either you or GoSlash ever have anything positive to contribute to a thread?
As for your comments about the power of the presidency. I'll have to assume that, since you dislike Bush/Cheney so much, you'd rather have had Kerry? Should you think that the current administration is poor, I'd shudder to think of the chaos that 9/11 would have thrown the Kerry, or Clinton, or Gore administration into. We'd probably have ended up offering the families of the terrorists reparations.
Harley Quinn
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Jr47
Don't mince with your words tell it like it is LOL...
Yep I would say that Bush is the most powerful person in the world and most would agree.
I would also say that a policeofficer holding a gun on you and telling you to freeze is pretty much up there (for the individual on the receiving end of said gun).
That was why George Washington did not want to be King he knew he would be overridden by Parliment so they did it in such a way as to make him the most powerful person with some limitation. Was not until Abraham Lincoln Came along and proved it.
Got to say Cheny is pretty accurate on that one, like it or not. Your bad...
It seems in this situation it is a fact.
Harley
Don't mince with your words tell it like it is LOL...
Yep I would say that Bush is the most powerful person in the world and most would agree.
I would also say that a policeofficer holding a gun on you and telling you to freeze is pretty much up there (for the individual on the receiving end of said gun).
That was why George Washington did not want to be King he knew he would be overridden by Parliment so they did it in such a way as to make him the most powerful person with some limitation. Was not until Abraham Lincoln Came along and proved it.
Got to say Cheny is pretty accurate on that one, like it or not. Your bad...
It seems in this situation it is a fact.
Harley
As I have said I voted for Bush twice as Govenor of Texas and for his his first term as President. I voted for Kerry next time not so much as a vote for Kerry but a vote against Bush. Blame the political system for giving us two cup of poisions to drink from.
as for the term positive contribution..that is a matter of opinion. we all have opinions and anatomy parts.
I personally think the Bush Administration has displayed a great amount of incompetence in the prosecution of the war in Iraq before the war started and up until now. For some mistaken reason the Bush Administration equated winning the war on terror to winning in Iraq. I am somewhat confused because the attack on 9/11 was born and prepared for in Afghanistan. Okay lets get the Taliban then...
For some reason the focus drifted to Iraq because of strategic nuclear WMDs capable of inflicting nuclear holocaust on the United States. Even the Bush administration is now saying we goofed on that one. Next comes well we gotta remove this Sadam fella and make Iraq a bastion of western style dmocracy. As far as I know the only thing close to western democracy in that neck of the woods is Turkey and Israel. Okay W I can understand your desire to make Iraq a democracy.... but what about Saudi Arabia? they are not a democracy and they are our ally....What about some of our other allies in the area they are not true democracies..W now has me confused. Okay we are going to make Iraq a democracy...but wink,wink, nod, nod we wont worry about our mid-east allies not being democracies.
Im confused here.... man speak with forked tounge.
Then we get we must stop the terrorists in Iraq. Now it seems that Iraq is the number one terrorist magnet in the world. You folks are certainly right about not having to fight them here because they are all going to Iraq to win paradise by killing our soldiers.
Cheney says we are wearing them down.... Then Rummy says well maybe not. So are these guys confused or what? Maybe they have told so many stories they have trouble keeping them straight. Cheney and Rumsfeld are the Laurel and Hardy of the beltway, dont they watch each others stories and interviews so they can get thier stories straight. I am no Clinton fanboy and did not vote for him, but at least his staff got thier stories straight.
Democracy in Islam....hrmmm, a conundrum. Islam doesnt provide for the seperation of church and state. Historically the political head is also the religious head. When it comes to Iraq one word comes to mind about the Bush Administration....clueless.
The result of this clulessness is the declining support for the war which I beleive the last poll was about 62% said they had no faith in Bush when it came to the war in Iraq. That is where the Jihadists will win the war... The only way to reverse this is to start fighting the war like you could still lose it instead of saying this Iraq thing is in the bag.
if you think I m advocating pulling out of Iraq you would be wrong. Thanks to the ineptitude of the current administation we basically have two choices:
1. Stay till the job gets done
2. Tuck your tail between out legs and run giving Jihadists the second victory over a superpower
No. 2 is not an option, if we do that then 9/11 is going to be a prelude to much worse. Imagine the recruiting tool that would be for Jihadists. Yes even we can defeat Superpowers.
as for the term positive contribution..that is a matter of opinion. we all have opinions and anatomy parts.
I personally think the Bush Administration has displayed a great amount of incompetence in the prosecution of the war in Iraq before the war started and up until now. For some mistaken reason the Bush Administration equated winning the war on terror to winning in Iraq. I am somewhat confused because the attack on 9/11 was born and prepared for in Afghanistan. Okay lets get the Taliban then...
For some reason the focus drifted to Iraq because of strategic nuclear WMDs capable of inflicting nuclear holocaust on the United States. Even the Bush administration is now saying we goofed on that one. Next comes well we gotta remove this Sadam fella and make Iraq a bastion of western style dmocracy. As far as I know the only thing close to western democracy in that neck of the woods is Turkey and Israel. Okay W I can understand your desire to make Iraq a democracy.... but what about Saudi Arabia? they are not a democracy and they are our ally....What about some of our other allies in the area they are not true democracies..W now has me confused. Okay we are going to make Iraq a democracy...but wink,wink, nod, nod we wont worry about our mid-east allies not being democracies.
Im confused here.... man speak with forked tounge.
Then we get we must stop the terrorists in Iraq. Now it seems that Iraq is the number one terrorist magnet in the world. You folks are certainly right about not having to fight them here because they are all going to Iraq to win paradise by killing our soldiers.
Cheney says we are wearing them down.... Then Rummy says well maybe not. So are these guys confused or what? Maybe they have told so many stories they have trouble keeping them straight. Cheney and Rumsfeld are the Laurel and Hardy of the beltway, dont they watch each others stories and interviews so they can get thier stories straight. I am no Clinton fanboy and did not vote for him, but at least his staff got thier stories straight.
Democracy in Islam....hrmmm, a conundrum. Islam doesnt provide for the seperation of church and state. Historically the political head is also the religious head. When it comes to Iraq one word comes to mind about the Bush Administration....clueless.
The result of this clulessness is the declining support for the war which I beleive the last poll was about 62% said they had no faith in Bush when it came to the war in Iraq. That is where the Jihadists will win the war... The only way to reverse this is to start fighting the war like you could still lose it instead of saying this Iraq thing is in the bag.
if you think I m advocating pulling out of Iraq you would be wrong. Thanks to the ineptitude of the current administation we basically have two choices:
1. Stay till the job gets done
2. Tuck your tail between out legs and run giving Jihadists the second victory over a superpower
No. 2 is not an option, if we do that then 9/11 is going to be a prelude to much worse. Imagine the recruiting tool that would be for Jihadists. Yes even we can defeat Superpowers.
...he says, after repeated attempts to derail the thread with vindictive personal attacks
Well yes, yes I do.
You see, I could buy your insanity plea...but this phenomenon isn't exactly new, is it? People have been leaving this administration and talking smack about them so much it seems to be on the fast track to becoming the new national sport.
They're not *all* crazy are they? I am at least willing to consider applying Occam's razor here.
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