It has been a while, but has anybody here seen a more austere, presidential candidate? VP nothing, this guy exudes "presidentiality." I do not know his stance on issues, but being from Wyoming, I would argue his most liberal stance would still be "poo-poo'ed" by Peter Jennings.
Cheney for President
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I've said to some acquaintances that Cheney AND Lieberman are more "presidential" in demeanor than their respective running mates. Bush doesn't seem to have a fact in his head. Cheney has them all. Gore is phony through and through in action and demeanor. Lieberman seems genuine. It's as though they are opposites.
Heh. I think everyone in the nation, no matter which side he choses, wishes that his side's ticket would be reversed.
Gore is...ehhh. Words fail me. Bush is a blabbering dunderhead. Lieberman is a stand-up guy, no matter how much you disagree with him on issues, at least the guy has principles not dictated by polls. This may change after prolonged association with Gore, but we'll see. Cheney is fantastic.
Plus side? If Bush pulls this off we may have Cheney running for prez in 8 years. Or if he fails, perhaps sooner.
I wanted so badly for the republicans to field a decent candidate, because I just can't stand the idea of 4 more years of this nonsense. At least they got the #2 spot right.
Mike
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"A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects." -Robert Heinlein
Gore is...ehhh. Words fail me. Bush is a blabbering dunderhead. Lieberman is a stand-up guy, no matter how much you disagree with him on issues, at least the guy has principles not dictated by polls. This may change after prolonged association with Gore, but we'll see. Cheney is fantastic.
Plus side? If Bush pulls this off we may have Cheney running for prez in 8 years. Or if he fails, perhaps sooner.
I wanted so badly for the republicans to field a decent candidate, because I just can't stand the idea of 4 more years of this nonsense. At least they got the #2 spot right.
Mike
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"A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects." -Robert Heinlein
Here, here.
Give me an OLD Lieberman with a pro-2nd lean or a Cheney, and they would be some of the best presidential candidates EVER.
madison46
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by 12-34hom:
It seemed like to me after watching the Bush & Gore debate = That they sent boys to do a mans job..
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Give me an OLD Lieberman with a pro-2nd lean or a Cheney, and they would be some of the best presidential candidates EVER.
madison46
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by 12-34hom:
It seemed like to me after watching the Bush & Gore debate = That they sent boys to do a mans job..
[/quote]I don't know Bush, so I won't argue whether or not he is a dunderhead. However, I don't believe in judging someone's fitness for the office due to a debate performance. What aspect of the Presidency does a debate measure? I can think of only one, the ability to operate under pressure. A president will need charm, in order to get things done. S/He will need to be able to get good, competent people to handle the departments and advise him on the many issues. S/He will need to inspire people on occasion. Again, I don't know what Bush's IQ is, I'm just saying a debate isn't really the most useful tool for selecting a president IMHO, YMMV, other lawyer talk 
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As for Gore, well, uhhh, just YUCK.
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Rob
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).As for Gore, well, uhhh, just YUCK.
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Cheney is fine, but IMHO it's easier to be second banana than top dog. If Cheney were under the same scrutiny, media antagonism, and pressure as Bush, he might do better than Bush--but he might not. Right now, each has his respective task, and each is trying to do his best at it.
Just my $0.02.
Just my $0.02.
To be fair, I thought George W. was a blabbering dunderhead long before the debate. However, he is OUR blabbering dunderhead, damnit! 
If you think he's bad, look at the alternative...*shudder*
Mike
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"A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects." -Robert Heinlein
However, he is OUR blabbering dunderhead, damnit! If you think he's bad, look at the alternative...*shudder*Mike
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"A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects." -Robert Heinlein
Hi capnrik
Yes, it is a great signature because it was uttered by one of the greatest Warriors to ever live, Crazy Horse. Beyond his fighting skills and leadership, he gave submissive allegiance to no one, never registered to a federal agency, never signed a treaty. He fought because he was forced to fight. When the time comes, may we all have just a small part of him in us. Hoka-hey, in the Oglala Sioux language of Crazy Horse does indeed mean it is a good day to die.
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Yes, it is a great signature because it was uttered by one of the greatest Warriors to ever live, Crazy Horse. Beyond his fighting skills and leadership, he gave submissive allegiance to no one, never registered to a federal agency, never signed a treaty. He fought because he was forced to fight. When the time comes, may we all have just a small part of him in us. Hoka-hey, in the Oglala Sioux language of Crazy Horse does indeed mean it is a good day to die.
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Hoka-hey
Ron Ankeny
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Actually, the Cheney ranch is between Casper and Medicine Bow, Wyoming, I go past it often. Cheney isn't the first high profile politician from Wyoming. Ever heard of Alan Simpson.
For what it's worth, good old Dick might be a home boy, but he hasn't done much for Wyoming, neither did Simpson. In reality, no matter where a politician's roots are, they seem to forget them and mutate the minute they hit Washington DC.
Still, Cheney is a great candidate and it's too bad Bush can't be as articulate and as well informed. Cheney and Lieberman are both stand up gentlemen. Bush is ok. As for Gore, no comment.
For what it's worth, good old Dick might be a home boy, but he hasn't done much for Wyoming, neither did Simpson. In reality, no matter where a politician's roots are, they seem to forget them and mutate the minute they hit Washington DC.
Still, Cheney is a great candidate and it's too bad Bush can't be as articulate and as well informed. Cheney and Lieberman are both stand up gentlemen. Bush is ok. As for Gore, no comment.
I agree with everything you said, Ron. Cheney also owns a house in Teton Pines, an "exclusive" subdivision about 7 miles out of Jackson, WY on the west bank of the Snake River. Value is 2-3 million dollars; hard to imagine him as just one of the boys. He is the best of the Gang of Four; however, his mileage may vary in the future, just as everyone else's.
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