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Ironbarr

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Folks, check your springs on (Mecgar) factory mags.

I've had increased fail to lock back on last round. Had my smith check it out yesterday. He said "mags" - I'd spent much time trying to figure it out and I didn't want to believe that. He grabbed a new (blue) Mecgar, stuffed it in and it caught every time. I bought it.

At home, I took the new spring out and stuffed it in the factory mag case - caught every time - did the other one - caught every time.

THEN - while they were all laying there on the towel I looked - and, lo and behold, the new spring was longer. Old springs collapsing? NO!! Maybe, but...

Counting the loops at one end of the old springs I counted nine, the new spring has twelve.

So count your (full) loops.

Now I wonder how many loops seven round mag springs have? Or did they just weaken and collapse. My factory mag springs now just barely top the floorplate on insertion - they were longer when new in June.

I guess that speaks to having more mags and rotating them often - I had just the two and kept them full since June - and only 300 rounds fired.

New springs will make'em work.

IB
 
Ironbarr,

This topic has been brought up before. While I fully agree that magazines that get alot of use will have their springs weaken, cycling (rotating) mags and unloading/loading mags will NOT save them. Springs will take a set initially, but will not weaken if left compressed. The constant compressing/decompressing of them will weaken them. There are a few metalurgists that will back this statement up.
Load 'em up, and leave them alone. One thing I do is, I have my carry mags loaded with defensive loads. Then I have practice magazines. I leave my carry mags alone and only use the others for practice. That way the carry mags will always work as designed in case I need them at a bad time!!

Sounds to me like someone goofed at the factory and put the wrong springs in your mags.

Just my .2 cents
 
Danny45...

Actually, I've thought both ways - loaded too long would deteriorate spring, and from the practical side they should be designed for long term compression... after all we can't pick/choose when we'd need a loaded mag.

Yet, I see your point, and also, perhaps the wrong spring was installed. After all, earlier CD's had known mag problems - which were supposedly resolved in the new enhanced CD's. I wonder if a shorter spring is used in a 7 round mag - anyone know?

Now, if you can direct me to a top slidestop plunger expert...


-IB
 
Blades...

The slide stop will not depress the plunger when reassembling. I have to use a "device" to manually depress the plunger to get the ss to slip in. It was hard when new in June, but now the ss contact point is a bit scarred from trying. Dealer tried a new ss and still had the problem. Must be the angle that the plunger meets ss and maybe the spring as when depressed it seems to drag heavily while compressing. Rough hole?

Hate to lose it for a month but may have to use the warranty and send it in. Have an ambi-safety and have to learn how to remove it, too. Had fail to lock back until we discovered the mag springs went south (2 Mags).

-IB

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