census changes reps, possible bonus for gun owners

EricM

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New York and PA lost seats in the House to AZ, TX, FL, NV, and GA which may bode well for gun owners thanks to the latest census.

http://news.excite.com/news/ap/001228/12/census-2000

WASHINGTON (AP) - Arizona, Texas, Florida and Georgia gained two seats in the House, while New York and Pennsylvania lost two as the Census Bureau unveiled the first results from this year's national head count that will be used to reassign the 435 House seats among the states.

There were 281,421,906 Americans on April 1, 2000, the Census Bureau said Thursday. That was up more than 33 million from 1990 count.

In a surprise, Florida picked up two House seats, to 25, with a 23.5 percent population gain. Scientists had expected it to gain only one seat based on 1999 population estimates. Georgia also picked up two seats, to 13, with a 26.4 percent gain.

Nevada recorded the largest population gain, 66.3 percent gain over 1990, but picked up only one seat and will have three.

As expected, Arizona and Texas gained two representatives in the House.

Arizona had a 40 percent gain in population from the last census a decade ago, and will go from six to eight congressional districts.

Texas had a 22.8 percent population gain, and will have 32 House seats.

"Never have we been so diverse, never have we been so many and never have we been so carefully measured," Census Director Kenneth Prewitt declared in releasing the numbers that will reshape America's political boundaries.

The biggest losses in Congress will be suffered by New York and Pennsylvania, each losing two seats.

New York's population inched up 3 percent from 1990 but it was not enough for the state to hold its 31 House seats. Pennsylvania's population rose 6 percent but the Keystone State will drop to 19 House seats.

In a surprise, however, both Indiana and Michigan lost one seat each. Indiana will have nine congressional seats despite growing 14 percent in population. Michigan will lose one of its 16 representatives after a population gain of 6.9 percent.

Neighboring Illinois also lost a House seat with a population gain of just 5 percent, making the Midwest one of the bigger losers.

The numbers furnished new evidence of a trend that has been under way since the last count - growth in the South and West spurred in large part by an increase in Hispanics, and a movement of Americans to such economic hotbeds as Atlanta and Las Vegas.

The numbers will now be used by state legislatures to reshape political boundaries for House districts.

Highlighting the changes, Prewitt noted that Texas had displaced New York as the nation's second-most-populous state. California remained the largest with a population of 33.8 million, up 13.8 percent from a decade ago.

The shifts left the South with gains that exceeded experts' expectations, while the Upper Midwest consistently lost House representation.

North Carolina was among the unexpected winners, gaining one seat after recording a 21.4 percent jump in its head count. Two others to gain a representative were California and Colorado. Both had been expected after steady population gains over the last decade.

States suffering a loss of one seat included Connecticut, Mississippi, Ohio, Oklahoma and Wisconsin.

Every state in the nation increased its population, with West Virginia recording the smallest growth at 0.8 percent. The District of Columbia experienced the only population decline, falling 5.7 percent.

The numbers landed on President Clinton's desk a few hours before Mineta and Prewitt made the public announcement.

"Today, I am pleased to receive from the Department of Commerce the first data released from Census 2000, our country's 22nd decennial census," Clinton said in a statement. "Most importantly, I want to thank the American people for their participation in Census 2000."

The Constitution says seats in the House must be redistributed fairly among the states every 10 years following the census. Based on an estimated national population this year of nearly 276 million, that means each House member represents about 625,000 people, said John Haaga, a researcher with the Population Reference Bureau.

The reapportionment figures are just the first numbers from Census 2000 that will have wide political implications. In March, the Census Bureau is scheduled to begin releasing more data detailing county and local-level populations that will be used to redraw congressional and state legislative districts.

"People have looked at those projections and have already begun to think 'Where can we add a seat? Where we can take a seat away?' ... Both parties are playing that game," said Tim Storey, redistricting analyst for the National Conference of State Legislatures. "That's where politics and population factors come into play."

The GOP enters redistricting in a much better position this year than a decade ago because of increased power and influence in state legislatures, said Tom Hoffler, redistricting director for the Republican National Committee
 
Pennsylvania is NOT an anti-gun state...

Pennsylvania has one of the best CCW laws in the nation. In fact I just got my NON-RESIDENT CCW permit yesterday while visiting my parents over Christmas. Only a few states offer that nice feature.

Pennsylvania also routinely sells the most hunting licenses in the nation.
 
YES!!! GA House Districts to be redrawn!

Crossin' my fingers and hopin' that Cynthia McKinney's gerrymandered district gets placed on the chopping block!
 
Keep in mind that this also changes the Electoral College. I didn't do the math, but if Bush takes the same States in 2004, he'll win by 10 or more votes. Anyhow, it's good news any way you look at it.
 
Not good....

......Oklahoma lost one. All of ours are Pro-2A. Don't know about the FNG that was elected in E.Okla.
 
NY looses two HR seats

The theory in NY goes that 1 rep. from each party will be lost. Speculation has already started which seats are going to be lost. The democrat seat will likely come from downstate, probably in NYC. The republican seat will be lost from somewhere in upstate, possibly in western NY where a current member is said to be considering retirement.

Downstate reps are generally rabidily anti and the upstate reps tend toward the pro-gun side. No votes are taken for granted. Which means that one anti from NY will be lost, but one pro will probably be lost as well. We shall see.

An interesting acticle on the loss of NY reps, including some Chuck Shumer history, can be found here.

-Mike
 
Well, Wisconsin in going to lose a seat, and it's a good news/bad news situation. Milwaukee has lost a significant portion of its population over the last ten years, so logically, it should lose one of the two congressional seats held by Democrats since water was invented. That's the good news. The bad news is the Democrats here, using the courts, could gerrymander the districts to skew the state even further to the left.

I will gladly trade one Congresman Kleczka for oneTom DeLay, though.

Dick
 
The redistricting in Texas will be certain to add two pro-gun legislators to Congress. We have a Republican controlled State Senate and the new districts will be drawn up to make sure that the new seats will be filled by Republicans and it Texas that means pro-gun.
 
Mike Irwin,

Since I hail from Arizona, I find Penn's gun laws to be cumbersome (Act 17 et al).

Let's hope they lose one from Philly. ;)

Rick
 
The question that isn't answered is whether or not a political philosophy alien to those states increasing in representation is also migrating along with all those new residents.
A bunch of liberal NY's moving to otherwise conservative FL will not necessarily increase our political clout in that area. In fact, it may very well reduce it!
Many of our western members have complained about the californization of their home states. We might be seeing the same thing happen elsewhere.
 
I suspect the changes will take place in 2002. The states that have gained representatives have to elect them, after all, and I don't think a special election will be held. I could be wrong, though.
 
Ohio loses one antigun rep

Ohio will lose one seat in the House. The speculation is that the 10th and 13th Congressional Districts will be redrawn and somewhat combined. This will force a run-off election in next spring's primaries. The 10th is currently held by Dennis Kucinich and the 13th by Sherrod Brown. The 10th is comprised of mostly Cleveland and the inner ring of west and southern suburbs. The 13th consists of most of Lorain County, along with the outer ring of the western and southern suburbs of Cuyahoga County.
 
Texas gains 2

The really great thing is that the Texas legislature is very conservative. Our Democrats are more conservative than a NY Republican. Almost all of them are pro 2nd. I love the way things broke down. If we could just manage to rid ourselves of Shiela Jackson Lee, and Lloyd Doggett, we'd be sending a pretty good delegation to DC.
 
Cougar - I'd love to see Kucinich get the boot, but I doubt that Brown is powerful or popular enough to overtake him and all those votes from the sheeple on the west-side of Cleveland.

It is amazing to me that people keep putting this admitted socialist in positions of power.
 
Of course, another way to look at it is that all those gun-hatin' Yankees are moving down here to the South and will soon start trying to make it illegal to have a picture of a gun in school.

JHS - I'm also in Oklahoma. I don't know what a "FNG" is, but if you mean Brad Carson, the new 2nd District Congressman, he is a Democrat but says he is very pro-2nd amendment. He claims to be a member of the NRA. The reason I have worded these so cautiously is that you never know what will happen to someone when they get to Washington.
 
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