Census Bureau Adopts GPS to Find American Homes

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Census Bureau Adopts GPS to Find American Homes

by Daniel Charles

All Things Considered, July 31, 2006 · Two-and-a-half years from now, in early 2009, the Census Bureau plans to send an army of 100,000 temporary workers down every street and dusty, dirt road in America. They will be armed with handheld GPS devices.

Robert LaMacchia, head of the Census Bureau's geography division, says they'll capture the latitude and longitude of the front door of every house, apartment and improvised shelter they find.

"We will actually knock on doors and look for hidden housing units," he says. "We will find converted garages; from the outside, it may not look like anybody lives there."

But census workers will add each dwelling, legal or not, to the Census Bureau's Master Address File.

Recent proposed budget cuts have put part of this plan in jeopardy. But if Congress restores the money, the census will end up with the geographic coordinates -- accurate to within 10 feet -- for about 110 million residences.

But the Census Bureau can't, by law, share that list with anyone, even local governments. LaMacchia says the information has to be treated as confidential. Otherwise, people might lie, and the census wouldn't be accurate.

"People would not tell us about hidden housing units," LaMacchia says. "People would not respond to the questionnaire if they believed that that information would be turned over to law enforcement or code enforcement and become public information."

Mapping Might Save Lives

Shoreh Elhami, director of Geographic Information Systems in Delaware County, Ohio, says this sort of information can save lives.

"Having a geographic dataset that is accurate, comprehensive and current is priceless," Elhami says.

Her passion and devotion have made Delaware County, a fast-growing area just north of Columbus, one of the most meticulously mapped areas of the country.

At her computer, with a few clicks of the mouse, Elhami can pull up a complex, multi-layered picture of Delaware County. Standard commercial software lets her highlight sewer lines, flood plains or real estate tracts. She can pick any address and retrieve pictures of that building from overhead and from the street, along with information about its owner.

The map can answer questions you never expected to ask, she says. Last year, a big storm came through. A reservoir on the Olentangy River, just upstream from the town, was in danger of overflowing, and authorities thought they might have to release water through the dam.

Nobody knew how many people in the town of Delaware might be flooded out of their homes. Elhami rushed to her electronic map. She added a new layer to the picture -- an image she'd received from the Army Corps of Engineers showing low-lying areas that would end up under water.

The image showed the outline of the "inundation zone," and within it, lines and clusters of little red dots. Each of those dots was a house that lay within the potential flood zone.

"The software allows you to do a count of every one of those residences and produce a file of those addresses," she says.

Elhami delivered that file to emergency managers, and they quickly called the people at each address. Fortunately, the storms subsided, and no flood came.

Every address in the county is in a database, complete with geographic coordinates so it will show up accurately on a map.

Assembling that data is a time-consuming effort. On one recent summer morning, Caleb Gutshall and Sheri Feasel trudged down North Winter Street, in Delaware, checking each address on this commercial strip and making sure that the county's list of occupants was accurate. They also take pictures of any new buildings. One door was unnumbered and locked. Gutshall peered in the window, but learned nothing. "It doesn't look like anybody's in there," he said.

Now the Census Bureau is planning to undertake much the same kind of effort, on a massive scale, covering the entire country. Elhami says that the Master Address File could be a priceless resource for many counties that don't have the resources to collect that information on their own.

Private Companies Push for Data

Pressure is growing to change the law and make this information available. Demand for geographic data is booming.

Private companies would love to get their hands on the Census Bureau's data. Web sites like Mapquest.com or maps.google.com, usually show addresses within the correct city block, but they will point to the correct house less than half the time.

Don Cooke, an executive from the mapping company TeleAtlas, says the Census Bureau's database would immediately solve that problem, and he'd like to use it.

"The laws basically say the intellectual property that's generated by the government belongs to us citizens, so I'd like to get it," he says. "Because I don't want to spend the money to go out and compile it!"

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=5590541
 
If you have a 911 street address it most probably

has already been done. Most gps mapping / street software can get you pretty close. Few years back I was using City Select to 'prove' I had the right mailing address for customers and most addresses with phone numbers had a geo-decimal location that was supposed to be with in 10ft.

Unless you've got an underground complex or other hidden home. This can be figured out by existing arial photographs.

But it does sound like a way to give folks jobs... of course they might lose a few up in the mountains or way back in the woods.
 
OddJob,
At what point does your fear and loathing of our gov't stop, and your love of it, if any, begin?
Oh yeah!
I forgot.... the British police are " the true bad guys" also!:rolleyes:
 
DasBoot, why is it that you equate Government = Country?

It doesn't, and I hope that you understand the distinction.

Having said that, why must I trust my government? What have the Feds done recently (or in the past) that would warrant unconditional trust?

Trust, like respect, is a two-way street.
 
I've discovered that a lot of people where I just relocated can't tell the difference between Government and Country.

The fascists would be proud.
 
Anti,
I fully understand the difference.
But when was the last time the "big bad government" really made your life miserable?
I'm sure you're doing relatively well for yourself, aren't you?
Pretty content with your lot in life?
There are PLENTY of things to bitch about in EVERY aspect of American life if you look hard enough.
I guess I'm just tired of people that hate, or ALWAYS speak negatively, about the US, it's form of gov't, the police, military, it's laws, etc, etc, etc.

Yes! They have that right.
They also have the right to seek out somewhere that perhaps is more fitting to their concept of "perfect government".

It's always the same tired crap.....the police are the bad guys!
The entire gov't is corrupt.
THIS is wrong with America!
THAT'S wrong with America!
Bush, Blair, Isreal, Elvis perpetrated 9-1-1!
Take your pick.
And again, I'm completely aware of the distinction between the Gov't and the people being governed.
Guess I'll never get used to whiners, that's all.:rolleyes:
 
Guess I was driven to a bit of bitchin' myself!:D
As for leaving the country, if I couldn't stand it here as much as some people sound like they can't, you're damn right I'd leave!
At least I'd have some integrity to back up my discontent.
I don't know of ANYONE that has had the balls to leave the US no matter how rotten they thought it was.
Gee, I wonder why?
And this...
the London metro police are the real terrorists.
is the kind of idiocy I'm talking about.
But maybe you all agree with that statement.

Heist, you wouldn't be pokin' fun of a certain group of Americans now, wouldja?:confused:
From the looks of it, I'm the only one here who is pretty much content with my life in America and America itself, imperfect gov't and all.
Sorry you guys aren't.:(
 
I know what you mean!:mad:
That's an unfortunate part of living here but I don't know of anywhere else where taxes are lower that I would care to live in.
My wife snores, but we're still together.
Just part of the package.
 
By congressional fiat all cell phones must use locator technology.

By congressional fiat all domestic food animals must identified, located, and monitored.

By congressional fiat all homes are to be located.

Anyone notice a pattern here?

Why?
 
yes, and my suggestions is

send those cheap Italian cars back to where they belong. Why would congress be driving them anyway!
 
For the past two censuses, we have been lucky enough to be "selected" to receive the sooper-dooper ultramax census questionaire. That's the one that asks all kinds of questions that are, in my view, quite invasive and none of the government's business. For example, they want to know how much debt you're carrying, and the quality of your house's plumbing. (Huh?)

Anyway, we answered the questions that are reasonable, such as how many live here, what are their ages and names, etc. and left everything else blank. Both times they sent someone up to get the rest of the info, and both times I have told them to shove it. (Except more politely, of course.) The last time, I was "reminded" that I was required by law to answer all the questions (I am not convinced that's true). I just told her to drag me into court, and if I lost I would give her the info she's looking for. No charges so far...

I believe the census was originally established to determine the correct number of Representatives to send to Congress. Seemingly it has evolved into a forced data-gathering tool for sociological studies. I'm simply not interested in that sort of thing.

Tim
 
Anyone who fails to full fill out the census form is subject to, IIRC, a $100 fine. As far as I know, no one has ever been fined.

Here's an interesting PBS interview from census time a couple of years ago.

http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/fedagencies/jan-june00/census_3-30.html

Note that the Democrat is defending the plumbing question because some people don't have plumbing, and she apparently thinks it's the Federal Government's responsibility to give everyone a flush toilet...
 
"The information will be kept confidential?,ok.And I'm the chairman of the joint chiefs of staff as well".


please please let me be treasurer..im so sick of being financially embarassed all the time while these "important" people charge 1000 bucks a person to listen to themselves talk,show enthusiasm towards their decisions and mill about as if to be doing something about it.


I have yet to see anything that has been gathered on the public to remain private.thats why we now have to call a hotline to stop unwanted junk mail and unwanted telephone soliciting.but wait..theres more..its only good for a few months.

thats why we have to put fraud alerts on our ssns because private data is not kept private but sold to marketing schemes and stolen for devious reasons.
 
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