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CCW Pistol
- Thread starter lvalley
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Eric Larsen
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Not really...the tried their hand at tiny with the Sigma .380...the next step up is the C. Special....which is bigger than the pony.....
Shoot well
Shoot well
Eric is correct. The closest S&W came to the Colt was
the now-discontinued Sigma .380. I suspect they will
not venture back into that size having sired, what was
to many, an unpretty gun. I have two and like them
for their heft, low profile, and accuracy for a gun having
only a 3" barrel. Extra mags are fairly common and also
available from S&W online.
A Sigma 380 page can be found at
http://thearmedcitizen.com/gunpages/sigma380.htm
Best regards.
the now-discontinued Sigma .380. I suspect they will
not venture back into that size having sired, what was
to many, an unpretty gun. I have two and like them
for their heft, low profile, and accuracy for a gun having
only a 3" barrel. Extra mags are fairly common and also
available from S&W online.
A Sigma 380 page can be found at
http://thearmedcitizen.com/gunpages/sigma380.htm
Best regards.
mguffey,
From the link you posted about the S&W Sigma 380:
Sorry, but somehow the author reminded me of somebody whose daytime job is at HCI or some other grabber outfit.
They can keep their mitts off my pistols because it could be extremely hazardous if one wouldn't fire while I'm changing mags in a tactical situation. "Child resistant" caps on pill bottles and multiple safety mechanisms on firearms are palliatives to salve the minds of careless and ignorant adults where children and danger coexist. Education trumps puzzles, which just challenge children anyway. < /rant>
From the link you posted about the S&W Sigma 380:
Remarkable! Why would "unskilled or the unknowning" be that way for more than a day or two after acquiring one? Why would one be around children unless attended by a skilled and knowing adult?It's one glaring shortcoming is that it will fire if a round is in the chamber with the magazine removed. This makes it somewhat dangerous if used by the unskilled or the unknowing and a special hazard around children.
Sorry, but somehow the author reminded me of somebody whose daytime job is at HCI or some other grabber outfit.
They can keep their mitts off my pistols because it could be extremely hazardous if one wouldn't fire while I'm changing mags in a tactical situation. "Child resistant" caps on pill bottles and multiple safety mechanisms on firearms are palliatives to salve the minds of careless and ignorant adults where children and danger coexist. Education trumps puzzles, which just challenge children anyway. < /rant>
There was an incident round Atlanta in the past
week or so where a trained female police officer
got drawn into an impromptu classroom visit
during which children swarmed around her admiring
her uniform, her badge, and were asking about
her gun. She pulled her piece, dropped the magazine
without clearing the chamber and allowed the kids to
pass it around.
BAM! The gun went off as one of the kids pulled
the trigger. Fortunately, the child wounded was
only grazed in the face and the wound took only
stitches instead of major surgery.
The kids being the unskilled. The officer being the
unknowing. This resulted in her suspension (and will
undoubtedly result in a lawsuit).
Stupid, inexcusable things happen around handguns
sometimes. Especially when someone thought they
unloaded the weapon by only removing the magazine.
Thank you for your input with which I simply disagree.
Author of the referenced page.
Best regards,
Mike Guffey
week or so where a trained female police officer
got drawn into an impromptu classroom visit
during which children swarmed around her admiring
her uniform, her badge, and were asking about
her gun. She pulled her piece, dropped the magazine
without clearing the chamber and allowed the kids to
pass it around.
BAM! The gun went off as one of the kids pulled
the trigger. Fortunately, the child wounded was
only grazed in the face and the wound took only
stitches instead of major surgery.
The kids being the unskilled. The officer being the
unknowing. This resulted in her suspension (and will
undoubtedly result in a lawsuit).
Stupid, inexcusable things happen around handguns
sometimes. Especially when someone thought they
unloaded the weapon by only removing the magazine.
Thank you for your input with which I simply disagree.
Author of the referenced page.
Best regards,
Mike Guffey
Not quite, Mike! The incident occurred in Germantown, PA, on Feb 6th, and the only one touching the Glock when it fired was... the police officer!BAM! The gun went off as one of the kids pulled the trigger.
The female police officer removed the magazine from her Glock, then let the 4th grade school children pass it around to look at it. When SHE put the magazine back in, there was an "accidental" discharge, and a fragment grazed one of the students after the round struck the floor.
One of the students is pretty smart. She said the police officer pulled the trigger. Even that 9 year old girl knew that it takes pulling the trigger for the Glock to go off.
The "adult" in charge, a 39 year old police officer, was neither "skilled" nor "knowing" about the safe handling of firearms. Even the kids knew enough not to pull the trigger as the pistol was being passed around.
Despite the newspaper stories, I'm not convinced that the police officer didn't clear the weapon before passing it around. I have a hard time believing even that ditz didn't know to clear the chamber before relinquishing control of the pistol to the children. I'd guess that it's a sure thing that at least one of the 23 children would have pulled the trigger! Furthermore, inserting a magazine isn't an event likely to cause an idiot whose finger is on the trigger to pull it. However, racking the slide could be. However, this whole incident indicates that none of the brains in the room were more than 9-10 years old. What unspeakable incompetence!
Smoke Eater
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Seems odd to me that an officer would remove their wepon in front of children, then remove the clip esentualy dissarming herself, then pass it around with a round in the chamber! Wow, maybe I'm just too cautious with things like that but it nearly knocked me to the floor when I heard that. What ever happened to "treat every firearm as if it were loaded"? And this one WAS loaded! This just gives the gun grabbers another foothold.
No officer I know would do that, not even with kids.
No officer I know would do that, not even with kids.