CCW In all 50 states...Why not?

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kesserman

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This is over-simple, but I live in California, and IF the SHTF, I'd prefer to get in my car, and head north with my soon to be purchased S&W 686 on my person (not locked in a box, locked in my trunk, as the laws state). And I would be committing a crime my neighbors in other states would not be.

My question is this.....

I'm assuming, that in order to get a CCW permit, you would have to demonstrate reasonable proficiency with a firearm (as we do in California), not to mention a background check, as well as being fingerprinted.

So (for argument's sake), I've proved I know which end of a gun to stand behind, and I have offered my fingerprints to those who need to keep track of such things. Not to mention I have legally purchased my handgun, which means a DROS.

After doing all that, I wouldn't steal cable, much less commit a crime with a handgun - A no brainer for California.

Seems like the ones who don't want CCW are who you have to worry about.

These are the ramblings of someone who very recently realized that having a gun, and knowing how to use it is a good thing. I feel like the guy who showed up last at the party. But here I am.

Thanks for listening
 
yup.. im in the same boat. i keep a gun in my trunk at all times. It does not have to be in a locked box in the trunk as the trunk itself takes the place of a lock box. I keep the clip unloaded in the next pouch of the bag and the bullets in the other. As long as there not touching your cool. I have been stopped twice and told the cops i have an unloaded firearm in the trunk. One took a quick look and checked to see if it was indeed unloaded. no prob. the other one a Carson Sheriff (coolest LEO's ) actually bought the same gun a few weeks before and we ended up having a cigg and BSing about guns for about 30 minutes.

what i want to know is... what jobs can you carry a gun legally besides a LEO. and im gonna be going to houston and then to atl for a few weeks and im not gonna drive without my gun. I wonder if the cops in the other states are gonna be as cool as the ones by me?? i hope so as i can't very well claim that im on my way home from the range when im three states away hahaa.. :D
 
CCW in all 50 states

YES!!!
We have CCW in over 40 states, now.
The criminals don't have to go through training and criminal checks... Let's let everyone have one.
 
I would love to see nationwide CCW. But not under the means outlined in your initial post.

My right to CCW is the Second Amendment. The Supreme Court should rule on the 2nd and do away with the bureaucracy involved in getting a CCW.

For it to be 50-state issued as some suggest, it would almost have to be run at the Federal level. And I'm not comfortable with BATFE having a centrally located list of all the citizens who are armed.

Remember registration is step one in confiscation.
 
and im gonna be going to houston and then to atl for a few weeks and im not gonna drive without my gun. I wonder if the cops in the other states are gonna be as cool as the ones by me??
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You can drive thru AZ with it loaded and in a holster on your waist or sitting next to you on the seat.

You can put it loaded in a holster under the seat or in the glovebox.

Do NOT put it under the seat without a holster, though. The holster "protects" its status from being a concealed weapon.
 
I feel like the guy who showed up last at the party. But here I am.
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Welcome to the party !!! Better late, than never.

I think/hope that reciprocal agreements between states, will eventually allow carry almost everywhere.
 
Why not CCW in all 50 States?

Simple, the South is not thrilled by the notion of having the people of those states that participated in The War of Northern Aggression be armed and invade the south again.

Texans don't trust Californians with guns either.
 
I wonder if the cops in the other states are gonna be as cool as the ones by me?? Don't count on it! As the police population moves from those raised with a farm/rural background (us old retired types) to those with urban backgrounds, it seems the attitudes about guns reflects the constant anti-gun propaganda urbanites are subjected to. There are always exceptions, of course, but it only takes one anti-gun cop to ruin your life, especially if you are in technical violation of some obscure provision of some dusty law. I also know of arrests for weapons violations where the " violator" was in complete complaince with all laws but the police were ignorant of the specifics in the law which legalized the carrying of a concealed weapon. Granted, that type of nightmare sorts itself out short of a trial but you can just imagine what that means before someone sensible drops it.


Steve
 
Consider this. I lived in NY most of my life. Had a pistol permit.

Now that I live in Pennsylvania my NY permit is no longer valid. I could be arrested for carrying in NY if discovered! Even though I have a PA LTC. And the gun I carry was listed on my NY permit.

How stupid is that? I was legal as a NY resident but moving 15 miles into another state I would be a criminal.

Gun control is not about the guns, or about the individual, it is about CONTROL!
 
CCW in all 50 states, why not?

Let me think.
Hmmm.
Hmmmmm.
Hmmmmmmmmmm.

I give up. I dunno. Maybe, it is too much like the right thing to do?
 
I would only assume that our Federal Government would be in charge of such a '50 state CCW'. This would be a bad, bad thing. Anytime our Govt. gets it's hands into something, that something tends to go to hell in a handbasket.
I can only imagine....after implementing the 50 state law [hell it would take those people a decade to draft it up to start with].....'We have decided that everyone must register their guns to be in compliance with this law.' Then, a few months/years later....' We have decided that nobody can carry any handgun with over 6 shots in it.' Then.....on and on, you get the picture.

Dear God people, get your heads on about this 50 state thing and drop it.
It is BAD ENOUGH that we HAVE to get a permit to exercise our God given and constitutional right.

rant mode OFF
 
It is BAD ENOUGH that we HAVE to get a permit to exercise our God given and constitutional right.
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Quite right. Actually, what I had in mind was along those lines. Since the various states have created this patchwork of conflicting requirements and regulations, the answer in my mind is to just get rid of the patchwork by going to the lowest common denominator, that being -- get rid of the requirements entirely. No State licensing, No Federal licensing, nothing but citizens exercising their inherent right to self defense. And I agree that making a Federal license to be run by the Feds is a bad idea -- VERY BAD. Problem is, it would tend to gravitate to the greatest common denominator instead of the least common denominator, that being no carry or even possession at all. It would mean that gun grabbing politicians and bureaucrats from gun-unfriendly areas would be making decisions about what would be allowed in areas like this one which are gun friendly. No, Thanks -- Yankee Go Home. I'd rather be able to carry across most of the South (existing reciprocal agreements) than to have to give up carry at all, or to put up with ridiculous gun grabber garbage.

After all -- I have absolutely no desire to go into any gun-unfriendly areas anyway. Well, except for occasional visits to see my mother and sister in Illinois, and that's only because they are there, not because I like the place.
 
Yeah, but forcing other states to universally offer reciprocity for your home state's permit is a good thing. I'd still like to see HR1243 pass; although I understand that if you can't get a CCW in your own state, it won't help you even with a non-res permit from another state.
 
yes why not,it use to be that truckers had to but individual state permits and now you can buy a nafta sticker which includes all the states,we could do the same thing.Ok in convinced ,lets do it.
 
although I understand that if you can't get a CCW in your own state, it won't help you even with a non-res permit from another state.
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Yes and no. Yes, you would be shortchanged, at least in the short run. No, in the long run it would tend to even itself out.

How?

People sometimes vote with their feet, and governments know that. An assumption has to be made that legitimate gun owners -- and by extension people who carry legally or would like to -- are overwhelmingly good, productive taxpayers who contribute to society. When it becomes apparent that they are being "shortchanged" by the local authorities in this matter (or any other), they start to consider moving to places that do not have those shortcomings. As opportunity presents itself, more of these productive people start to leave the overly restrictive locales, businesses and tax revenues flee with them. And it becomes harder to bring in outside talent & businesses into that locale. I know, we ourselves have refused job moves to leftist gun grabbing areas on more than 1 occasion. Those factors directly impact the bottom line of those same locales, and those in authority have to take notice. As long as there is some sort of feedback to those authorities, they'll get the message. It just takes time, commitment, and the existence of more permissive locales.
 
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