Hello all. I currently own two handguns, a pre traitor S&W 686 and a Colt Pony Pocketlite. I am applying for a CCW and I have a few concerns. I realize that Colt does not make this gun any longer and I am worried about replacement parts (mags, springs, etc.)Should I carry the Pony or wrap it up as an investment since around here they go for $460 used? My other option is to buy a S&W 638 Bodyguard and use that as a CCW gun. I am a decent shot with both and my dealer has a pre-traitor model in stock. (I fired my brother in laws 638)My last concern is that my work environemnt calls for shirt, tie and pants (I don't wear jackets, too uncomfortable) I think that the Pony would be easier to conceal then the revolver (flat, etc.) Any opinions on this issue would be greatly appreciated?
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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Rommel:
Hello all. I currently own two handguns, a pre traitor S&W 686 and a Colt Pony Pocketlite. I am applying for a CCW and I have a few concerns. I realize that Colt does not make this gun any longer and I am worried about replacement parts (mags, springs, etc.)Should I carry the Pony or wrap it up as an investment since around here they go for $460 used? My other option is to buy a S&W 638 Bodyguard and use that as a CCW gun. I am a decent shot with both and my dealer has a pre-traitor model in stock. (I fired my brother in laws 638)My last concern is that my work environemnt calls for shirt, tie and pants (I don't wear jackets, too uncomfortable) I think that the Pony would be easier to conceal then the revolver (flat, etc.) Any opinions on this issue would be greatly appreciated? [/quote]
If you feel comfortable with the Pony, carry it!
You're not going to wear it out carrying the piece. Just get a good pocket holster for it.
BTW, how much does it weigh?
Hello all. I currently own two handguns, a pre traitor S&W 686 and a Colt Pony Pocketlite. I am applying for a CCW and I have a few concerns. I realize that Colt does not make this gun any longer and I am worried about replacement parts (mags, springs, etc.)Should I carry the Pony or wrap it up as an investment since around here they go for $460 used? My other option is to buy a S&W 638 Bodyguard and use that as a CCW gun. I am a decent shot with both and my dealer has a pre-traitor model in stock. (I fired my brother in laws 638)My last concern is that my work environemnt calls for shirt, tie and pants (I don't wear jackets, too uncomfortable) I think that the Pony would be easier to conceal then the revolver (flat, etc.) Any opinions on this issue would be greatly appreciated? [/quote]
If you feel comfortable with the Pony, carry it!
You're not going to wear it out carrying the piece. Just get a good pocket holster for it.
BTW, how much does it weigh?
Deep concealment was covered in previous trend with a lot of good suggested posted there, but to quickly recap what I said, living in the hot & humid Florida swamps where it doesn't even make it out of the 80's in the cold of winter and having to wear a shirt & tie when I go to work, I have quickly learned a lot about deep concealment and I use an ActionDirect Defender Belly Band with a Kahr MK9 (I originally started carrying the MK40 but with serious defensive rounds, I find it hard to shot that little thing accurately -- I guess it requires more practice than I have the time to put in). I would suggest that you carry the pony. Replacement springs (for both the slide and the magazine) are easy to change and are readily available -- just pick up any gunazine and you'll see about half a dozen ads. Regards.
Share what you know, learn what you don't -- FUD
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Bullwinkle
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Where do you positon with the belly band? IWB, strong side, cross draw, appendix, or up on the torso somewhere?
Where do you positon with the belly band? IWB, strong side, cross draw, appendix, or up on the torso somewhere?
Herr Rommel,
I have been carrying a Smith & Wesson Airweight or AirLite Ti for the past five years. I also have the same clothing restrictions at the office.
IMHO, carrying a lightweight revolver in your front pocket is the ideal way to go with your mode of dress. Yes the cylinder will add some bulk but a proper pocket holster (e.g., Kramer horsehide model) and pleated pants (which fits in nicely with your dress code at work) will fix that in short order.
Since you don't wear a jacket (or other cover garment) at work, I'd strongly recommend pocket carry. Remember, one gun, one place, all the time. In extreme hot weather, you can still carry in your pocket because there is no cover garment involved. Cargo shorts or dress shorts typically have pleated fronts so no problems there.
In extreme cold weather, you just stick your gun in your pocket of your outer garment. No digging through layers and layers of clothes or keeping your cover garment unzipped when it's ten below zero outside. You use the same mode of carry all the time.
But in the end, I would go with the gun that you can shoot better and the one that fits your hands the best. For defense of your life, you want something that you can reliably carry 24/7 and shoot well. Pocket carry will do nicely, if you are not carrying in that mode already.
Justin
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Justin T. Huang, Esq.
late of Kennett Square, Pennsylvania
I have been carrying a Smith & Wesson Airweight or AirLite Ti for the past five years. I also have the same clothing restrictions at the office.
IMHO, carrying a lightweight revolver in your front pocket is the ideal way to go with your mode of dress. Yes the cylinder will add some bulk but a proper pocket holster (e.g., Kramer horsehide model) and pleated pants (which fits in nicely with your dress code at work) will fix that in short order.
Since you don't wear a jacket (or other cover garment) at work, I'd strongly recommend pocket carry. Remember, one gun, one place, all the time. In extreme hot weather, you can still carry in your pocket because there is no cover garment involved. Cargo shorts or dress shorts typically have pleated fronts so no problems there.
In extreme cold weather, you just stick your gun in your pocket of your outer garment. No digging through layers and layers of clothes or keeping your cover garment unzipped when it's ten below zero outside. You use the same mode of carry all the time.
But in the end, I would go with the gun that you can shoot better and the one that fits your hands the best. For defense of your life, you want something that you can reliably carry 24/7 and shoot well. Pocket carry will do nicely, if you are not carrying in that mode already.
Justin
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Justin T. Huang, Esq.
late of Kennett Square, Pennsylvania
Bullwinkle, For ultimate concealment (meaning, tucked in dress shirt and no jacket), I use a crossdraw by positioning the Kahr MK9 with the barrel/frame running along my left leg and the grip going across my side/waist area. The gun COMPLETELY disappears from sight and it does not interfer with sitting, walking, crawling (under desks looking for computer cable), playing around on the ground with the little ones at the in-laws, etc. When I have an untucked shirt, I carry a (pre-agreement) 3913TSW on my strong side -- it also does not interfer with my regular activities (sitting, walking, etc). Either way, I find it very comfortable.
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Bullwinkle
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I've been trying it crossdraw up on my torso, with the grip just below my pecs (BT....whatever) and the slide running off to the the side of my beer collecton (gut...whatever). It disappears there but the constriction becomes unconfortable after a while. Are we talking about the same place?
[This message has been edited by Bullwinkle (edited April 28, 2000).]
I've been trying it crossdraw up on my torso, with the grip just below my pecs (BT....whatever) and the slide running off to the the side of my beer collecton (gut...whatever). It disappears there but the constriction becomes unconfortable after a while. Are we talking about the same place?
[This message has been edited by Bullwinkle (edited April 28, 2000).]
Bullwinkle, I obviously didn't explain myself very well. You wrap the bellyband along your waist line with the butt of the gun sticking above the belt area at a slight angle for easier access and the shirt slightly buffed out (you can also put it completely below the waist line but I found that for me it more than doubles the time that it takes me to get the gun out and those few seconds might be important).
I carry around 40 extra pounds around my waist which I really should lose but despite my beer belly, there's a nice spot between the left hip bone and the belly button where the gun is completely invisible -- I lived with my two sister-in-laws (who are very anti weapons) for several months while my house was being built and I had the gun strapped on me from the time I woke up until the time I went to bed and they never knew that I was armed. Additionally, I frequently wear it 14-18 hours a day and that spot between the hip & belly button allows me to carry it in complete comfort.
I hope this has been of help (if not, feel free to write back). Good luck, FUD
[This message has been edited by FUD (edited April 28, 2000).]
I carry around 40 extra pounds around my waist which I really should lose but despite my beer belly, there's a nice spot between the left hip bone and the belly button where the gun is completely invisible -- I lived with my two sister-in-laws (who are very anti weapons) for several months while my house was being built and I had the gun strapped on me from the time I woke up until the time I went to bed and they never knew that I was armed. Additionally, I frequently wear it 14-18 hours a day and that spot between the hip & belly button allows me to carry it in complete comfort.
I hope this has been of help (if not, feel free to write back). Good luck, FUD
[This message has been edited by FUD (edited April 28, 2000).]