CCI Stingers in Beretta Bobcat...Safe or not?
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Glenn E. Meyer
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Who made the gun? That's a clue. 
dogtown tom
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The reason CCI cautions against Stingers in some firearms has to do with case length, not pressure. The driving band of the bullet is closer to the tip than other .22LR's, causing problems if the chamber is tight (such as a match chamber).
In some chambers this may cause extraction/ejection issues.
OAL is nearly identical.
Well, the Stinger isn't "in spec" to begin with. The Stinger case is longer.... approximately 0.71" versus 0.595" for a .22Long Rifle case.
In some chambers this may cause extraction/ejection issues.
OAL is nearly identical.
Stingers
I have a Bobcat. I used to shoot Stingers all the time. One day I was shooting either Stingers or Mini Mags, I can't remember, anyway the round was defected and the case ruptured. The firing pin blew out the back of the slide. Lucky for me I didn't catch it in my eye. I didn't realize exactly what happened at first. The pistol wasn't firing and I finally figured out the firing pin wasn't visible. I actually found it and it wasn't damaged. I brought it to my gunsmith and he explained to me what must have happened. He reinstalled the pin and tested it and the gun was fine. I stopped using it as a carry. I only used CCI ammo and I figured if I can have a problem like this using good ammo I should reevaluate using a .22 as a ccw. I really, really liked it too. Carries great and I loved the tip up barrel. Had other issues with the Tomcat so I'm done with both for carry. But out of the two I liked the Bobcat best. Anyway I got off topic, so is it ok to use Stingers? Yea as long as you don't get a bad round.
I have a Bobcat. I used to shoot Stingers all the time. One day I was shooting either Stingers or Mini Mags, I can't remember, anyway the round was defected and the case ruptured. The firing pin blew out the back of the slide. Lucky for me I didn't catch it in my eye. I didn't realize exactly what happened at first. The pistol wasn't firing and I finally figured out the firing pin wasn't visible. I actually found it and it wasn't damaged. I brought it to my gunsmith and he explained to me what must have happened. He reinstalled the pin and tested it and the gun was fine. I stopped using it as a carry. I only used CCI ammo and I figured if I can have a problem like this using good ammo I should reevaluate using a .22 as a ccw. I really, really liked it too. Carries great and I loved the tip up barrel. Had other issues with the Tomcat so I'm done with both for carry. But out of the two I liked the Bobcat best. Anyway I got off topic, so is it ok to use Stingers? Yea as long as you don't get a bad round.
Bill DeShivs
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It would be physically impossible for a bad round to blow the firing pin out of the slide. What happened is the pin that holds the firing pin in place came out.
Bobcat
No bud the whole firing pin, intact came out. When it happened it happened it wasnt like I heard something different or felt anything. I tried to fire the gun and it wouldn't work. Inspecting it I could see that there was no firing pin there. I found it and I was pretty shocked as well as my friend shooting with me. The idea that a round probably ruptured came from the gunsmith I brought the gun to. He put the firing pin back in and test fired and it worked. That was the last time it was fired. True story but you can believe it or not.
No bud the whole firing pin, intact came out. When it happened it happened it wasnt like I heard something different or felt anything. I tried to fire the gun and it wouldn't work. Inspecting it I could see that there was no firing pin there. I found it and I was pretty shocked as well as my friend shooting with me. The idea that a round probably ruptured came from the gunsmith I brought the gun to. He put the firing pin back in and test fired and it worked. That was the last time it was fired. True story but you can believe it or not.
Mike Irwin
Staff
I suspect that the ruptured case was more of a symptom than a cause.
The firing pin retaining pins are tiny, and they're known to fracture, which can lead to an uncaptured firing pin.
On firing, the firing pin supports a portion of the case while chamber pressure is high, preventing it from blowing out. If the firing pin retainer is broken, it might not be up to doing that, possibly leading to a case rupture, escaped gas, and the firing pin being pushed out of the slide.
The relatively small area of the case rupture, the small amount of gas, and relative mass of the firing pin pretty much guarantees it would be a very low velocity event... Still enough to get your attention if it clocks you, though.
The firing pin retaining pins are tiny, and they're known to fracture, which can lead to an uncaptured firing pin.
On firing, the firing pin supports a portion of the case while chamber pressure is high, preventing it from blowing out. If the firing pin retainer is broken, it might not be up to doing that, possibly leading to a case rupture, escaped gas, and the firing pin being pushed out of the slide.
The relatively small area of the case rupture, the small amount of gas, and relative mass of the firing pin pretty much guarantees it would be a very low velocity event... Still enough to get your attention if it clocks you, though.
I ve shot stingers in my 21's But any more just CCI Standard Velocity I find they work fine and seem very reliable. I used shoot mine 2 or 3 rounds a day. I live in country and use to call my dog home when he's in woods behind house . Sound of the pistol seem to carry better than my voice. Now he old like me and stays close to house.