casings hiting me in the forehead, how to remedy?

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AR10man

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I have a para ordnance p13 and it kicks the empty shells most of the time at my head. It is like the 80 series colt I am told, so how can a man fix it so it wont pop me?
 
Welcome to TFL. The Para is not designed to do that, so maybe it's you, what other autopistols do you shoot? Maintaining a grip loose in the hand or wrist will let the pistol roll back upon firing and then eject brass straight at your noggin. Malady commonly associated with revolver shooters making the switch to autos. Wear a hat if all else fails, hot brass sucks.
 
Bob, weave, duck, and wear a full face helmet.

But on a more serious note. The three things that I know of (and I am no gunsmith mind you) that control where an empty casing goes are 1) the ejector, 2) the extractor, and 3) the recoil spring. Maybe a different length ejector, a different tension on the extractor, a different weight recoil spring, or some combination of these three.
 
Navy joe posted at the same time I did, but I will have to agree...how tight you hold the pistol in your hand also has some bearing on where the brass flies.
 
Good chance it is angle of ejector. Sometimes extractor contributes to the problem.

Tunable by a smith.

Sam
 
SSSSSSSSSSSshhhhhhhhhhhhhhooooooooot!!!!:D

Everyone knows yur sposed to hold a pistol horizonatal like the dipsticks in the movies!!!!!:p
 
i changed the recoil spring with a heavier wilson combat kit that has the full length guide rod set. I have 2 springs one heavy and one lighter. I have the heavy one on it now. I hold the gun pretty tight. Maybee I need to let up a little. What do you all think?
 
I had a gun that would do that. It even did that w/ other shooters who tried the gun. My remedy...I sold it ;)
 
Your problem is correctable by tuning the extractor, and to a lesser extent, the ejector.
1911's should NOT throw cases at your head.

Either take it to a qualified 'smith, return it to Para Ordnance, or buy a copy of Kunhausen's book on gunsmithing the 1911, and do it yourself.
 
To change the angle of ejection, re-shape the forward point of the ejector.

With the point high, the ejector will kick the cases more to the side. With a low point, the ejector will kick them at a higher angle.

If you have an extended ejector, it's a simple fix. Carefully file the bottom of the ejector's "finger" until the top forms a more pointed shape. Then, file a small bevel on the inner edge of the ejector. The problem should be fixed with this.
 
Also check the bottom edge of the extractor hook. It should be slightly rounded to let a new round move easily into the hook and to allow the extracted round to roll out of the hook. You really need Kuhnhausen's books to help you with this or just take it to a gunsmith.
 
As some of the others have said, take it to a gunsmith who can tune the extractor and ejector for you. I don't advise doing it yourself, unless you have experience working on 1911-type pistols. Any decent gunsmith who knows 1911s can do the adjustments for a small charge. If your gun is still new, Para-Ordinance can of course do it for free under warranty.
 
Wear a hat:
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I was just at the range last night, and my Sig P220 and P220ST both eject shells straight up high and back. And the cases always seem to land on top of my head, lol.
 
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