Case Identification

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I am trying to identify this brass case i found in a tub of brass a friend gave me. I know these pics are not great but I hope some one can help.
 

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Measurements of the case (length, diameter, rim size, etc) would be a tremendous help.

Without them, there is really no way to be sure.

As a guess, based on the pics, it could be a .45-70 "blank", or Line Throwing Cartridge. Or it could be a shot cartridge that someone made in a .45-70 case.
it is about the right size. Or it could be some other case with close dimensions. Without measurements, you can't be certain just by eye.

I don't recognize the headstamp. Sorry.
 
My advice is not to mess with it. Military ammo, even small arms ammo, can contain some nasty stuff, like nerve gas or anthrax. Unknown stuff should be disposed of safely (if you know how) or turned in to the military.

Jim
 
those napalm covered flaming troll midgets are no laughing matter. had a aunt's cousin's wife's half sister's uncle get hit with one of those... he didn't come out of that one pretty.
 
"Military ammo, even small arms ammo, can contain some nasty stuff, like nerve gas or anthrax" ***!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?

Two correct answers above...........artillery ignitor/primer. Nothing dangerous about it at all, but I wouldn't fire it in my old .45-70 Trapdoor.
 
Thanks for all of the replies. Thats pretty cool. I have been researching for a couple of days. Something to put in the case for a conversation piece.
 
I'm glad to know that round is an artillery igniter and no more harmful than any small arms ammunition. But my comments were not a joke; both those substances have been used in conventional-looking ammunition, as well as such nice things as botulis toxin, PETN, and plain old TNT. Mercury fulminate is usually thought of as an old time primer material, but it has also been loaded into bullets as an impact explosive.

Jim
 
Now that the controversy is all solved . . .

I have a question for you military fellows . . .

I wasn't in the military and my only experience with artillery is full size Civil War Parrott Rifles and Mortors . . . obviously much different than "modern artillery".

Question - were these primers all of one size regardless of size of artillery piece or were they made in different sizes depending on bore/powder load?

Thanks.:)
 
There are different sizes and shapes. One I saw (no idea what gun it was for) was about the size of a 12ga shell, with a slight bottleneck.

Lots of different guns from lots of nations over lots of years, different sizes/shapes for different jobs.

We have small pistol, and large rifle magnum primers, same idea still working with really big guns some only firing a couple dozen pounds of powder, other firing a couple hundred pounds each shot.
 
The Naval Rifles of the Great White Fleet's Armored Cruiser #6 the U.S.S. San Diego used 30-40 blanks for her 8" 40 cal main guns. I don't know about the others. They look like regular star crimped blanks, possibly with a different powder from ceremonial blanks?
 
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